QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

skinsfaninok · 02-16-2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

He is a damn good QB. I like him. I just don't like when people take my words out of context.

Especially not you skinsfaninok. It hurts my heart.

lol well even I can make a mistake..

GTripp0012 · 02-16-2012, 05:42 PM

I do think Matt Ryan gets exposed by the best competition in the league every year as being not as good as his regular season statistics would suggest he is (i.e. a top five NFL quarterback). He isn't that and the Falcons OL and WR and organization in general doesn't get enough credit for making early career Matt Ryan that player. Ryan outproduces guys like Eli Manning on a consistent week-to-week basis, and he's simply not as good a quarterback as Eli is.

Like Matt Stafford, he's young and he'll probably get there. Though I will say this: if offensive totals continue to skyrocket behind physical specimens like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, guys like Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are simply going to be lost in the shuffle, and be remembered as average. But if 2011 was just a blip, I think Matt Ryan will emerge as an elite QB within the next two years.

Ruhskins · 02-16-2012, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do think Matt Ryan gets exposed by the best competition in the league every year as being not as good as his regular season statistics would suggest he is (i.e. a top five NFL quarterback). He isn't that and the Falcons OL and WR and organization in general doesn't get enough credit for making early career Matt Ryan that player. Ryan outproduces guys like Eli Manning on a consistent week-to-week basis, and he's simply not as good a quarterback as Eli is.

Like Matt Stafford, he's young and he'll probably get there. Though I will say this: if offensive totals continue to skyrocket behind physical specimens like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, guys like Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are simply going to be lost in the shuffle, and be remembered as average. But if 2011 was just a blip, I think Matt Ryan will emerge as an elite QB within the next two years.

I think the Falcons did a terrible job at keeping their offensive line starter. I think that really affected the Falcons down the stretch. Also, they could have done without betting the farm on Julio Jones.

SkinzWin · 02-16-2012, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

lol well even I can make a mistake..

say it ain't so coach...

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do think Matt Ryan gets exposed by the best competition in the league every year as being not as good as his regular season statistics would suggest he is (i.e. a top five NFL quarterback). He isn't that and the Falcons OL and WR and organization in general doesn't get enough credit for making early career Matt Ryan that player. Ryan outproduces guys like Eli Manning on a consistent week-to-week basis, and he's simply not as good a quarterback as Eli is.

Like Matt Stafford, he's young and he'll probably get there. Though I will say this: if offensive totals continue to skyrocket behind physical specimens like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, guys like Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are simply going to be lost in the shuffle, and be remembered as average. But if 2011 was just a blip, I think Matt Ryan will emerge as an elite QB within the next two years.

I think Matt Ryan is really good but I just don't see him in the elite top 5 conversation with the likes of Brees, Brady, Manning and the like.

GTripp0012 · 02-16-2012, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I think Matt Ryan is really good but I just don't see him in the elite top 5 conversation with the likes of Brees, Brady, Manning and the like.

Same. But I think a lot of credit for why Matt Ryan is as good as he is always gets displaced. And the playoffs are just an example of what Matt Ryan is right now when he's forced to play the role of the underdog: a young, mistake-prone decision maker with obvious physical limitations.

GTripp0012 · 02-16-2012, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think the Falcons did a terrible job at keeping their offensive line starter. I think that really affected the Falcons down the stretch. Also, they could have done without betting the farm on Julio Jones.

I liked the aggression they showed in the Jones trade, but I ultimately wouldn't have done it because I thought Jones was a second rounder.

NC_Skins · 02-16-2012, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I liked the aggression they showed in the Jones trade, but I ultimately wouldn't have done it because I thought Jones was a second rounder.

Even knowing how Jones played this past year, I still wouldn't have made that trade. Their defense needed the help, not their offense.

GTripp0012 · 02-16-2012, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Even knowing how Jones played this past year, I still wouldn't have made that trade. Their defense needed the help, not their offense.

I think though if Jones had gone 4th to the Bengals and that was A.J. Green they traded up for -- aside from having that marketing value because of where Green played his college ball -- that would have been a sensational move that probably would have put the Falcons deep in the playoffs this year.

They couldn't control that though. If they had them rated close to one another, I get why they would do that.

If they had taken Aldon Smith instead? Hoo boy, that would have been a tough defense this year.

02-16-2012, 05:42 PM	#542
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign I do think Matt Ryan gets exposed by the best competition in the league every year as being not as good as his regular season statistics would suggest he is (i.e. a top five NFL quarterback). He isn't that and the Falcons OL and WR and organization in general doesn't get enough credit for making early career Matt Ryan that player. Ryan outproduces guys like Eli Manning on a consistent week-to-week basis, and he's simply not as good a quarterback as Eli is. Like Matt Stafford, he's young and he'll probably get there. Though I will say this: if offensive totals continue to skyrocket behind physical specimens like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, guys like Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are simply going to be lost in the shuffle, and be remembered as average. But if 2011 was just a blip, I think Matt Ryan will emerge as an elite QB within the next two years. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

Redskins Locker Room