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Old 02-16-2012, 06:33 PM   #541
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Matt Ryan Stats - Atlanta Falcons - ESPN

Ryan has 94 Tds to 45 Ints

Great home record and career 90 Passer rating and hes a bust?
Definitely a bust. Especially considering the Falcons have a crappy under performing defense that keeps letting them down in the playoffs year after year while the FO makes intelligent decisions like drafting wide receivers the year after giving up 48 points to the Packers.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:34 PM   #542
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Who said he was a bust? Not me. I simply said what did he do in the PLAYOFFS. N-A-D-A...

Jim Mora playoffs - YouTube

Hey I agree playoffs are where the $ is earned and he's Tony Romo IMO, A damn good QB that just cant get over the playoff hump
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Hey I agree playoffs are where the $ is earned and he's Tony Romo IMO, A damn good QB that just cant get over the playoff hump
He is a damn good QB. I like him. I just don't like when people take my words out of context. Especially not you skinsfaninok. It hurts my heart.
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He is a damn good QB. I like him. I just don't like when people take my words out of context. Especially not you skinsfaninok. It hurts my heart.
lol well even I can make a mistake..
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I do think Matt Ryan gets exposed by the best competition in the league every year as being not as good as his regular season statistics would suggest he is (i.e. a top five NFL quarterback). He isn't that and the Falcons OL and WR and organization in general doesn't get enough credit for making early career Matt Ryan that player. Ryan outproduces guys like Eli Manning on a consistent week-to-week basis, and he's simply not as good a quarterback as Eli is.

Like Matt Stafford, he's young and he'll probably get there. Though I will say this: if offensive totals continue to skyrocket behind physical specimens like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, guys like Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are simply going to be lost in the shuffle, and be remembered as average. But if 2011 was just a blip, I think Matt Ryan will emerge as an elite QB within the next two years.
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I do think Matt Ryan gets exposed by the best competition in the league every year as being not as good as his regular season statistics would suggest he is (i.e. a top five NFL quarterback). He isn't that and the Falcons OL and WR and organization in general doesn't get enough credit for making early career Matt Ryan that player. Ryan outproduces guys like Eli Manning on a consistent week-to-week basis, and he's simply not as good a quarterback as Eli is.

Like Matt Stafford, he's young and he'll probably get there. Though I will say this: if offensive totals continue to skyrocket behind physical specimens like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, guys like Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are simply going to be lost in the shuffle, and be remembered as average. But if 2011 was just a blip, I think Matt Ryan will emerge as an elite QB within the next two years.
I think the Falcons did a terrible job at keeping their offensive line starter. I think that really affected the Falcons down the stretch. Also, they could have done without betting the farm on Julio Jones.
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I do think Matt Ryan gets exposed by the best competition in the league every year as being not as good as his regular season statistics would suggest he is (i.e. a top five NFL quarterback). He isn't that and the Falcons OL and WR and organization in general doesn't get enough credit for making early career Matt Ryan that player. Ryan outproduces guys like Eli Manning on a consistent week-to-week basis, and he's simply not as good a quarterback as Eli is.

Like Matt Stafford, he's young and he'll probably get there. Though I will say this: if offensive totals continue to skyrocket behind physical specimens like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, guys like Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are simply going to be lost in the shuffle, and be remembered as average. But if 2011 was just a blip, I think Matt Ryan will emerge as an elite QB within the next two years.
I think Matt Ryan is really good but I just don't see him in the elite top 5 conversation with the likes of Brees, Brady, Manning and the like.
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I think Matt Ryan is really good but I just don't see him in the elite top 5 conversation with the likes of Brees, Brady, Manning and the like.
Same. But I think a lot of credit for why Matt Ryan is as good as he is always gets displaced. And the playoffs are just an example of what Matt Ryan is right now when he's forced to play the role of the underdog: a young, mistake-prone decision maker with obvious physical limitations.
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I think the Falcons did a terrible job at keeping their offensive line starter. I think that really affected the Falcons down the stretch. Also, they could have done without betting the farm on Julio Jones.
I liked the aggression they showed in the Jones trade, but I ultimately wouldn't have done it because I thought Jones was a second rounder.
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I liked the aggression they showed in the Jones trade, but I ultimately wouldn't have done it because I thought Jones was a second rounder.
Even knowing how Jones played this past year, I still wouldn't have made that trade. Their defense needed the help, not their offense.
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Even knowing how Jones played this past year, I still wouldn't have made that trade. Their defense needed the help, not their offense.
I think though if Jones had gone 4th to the Bengals and that was A.J. Green they traded up for -- aside from having that marketing value because of where Green played his college ball -- that would have been a sensational move that probably would have put the Falcons deep in the playoffs this year.

They couldn't control that though. If they had them rated close to one another, I get why they would do that.

If they had taken Aldon Smith instead? Hoo boy, that would have been a tough defense this year.
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