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Old 02-08-2012, 05:40 PM   #91
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Mr. Smoot, why would we sign McCoy and Shipley. I dont mind Shipley for some young receiver depth but why mccoy? i really hope they dont believe he could be our qb of the future if we do end up signing a vet like manning. I have no faith in mccoy and would much rather a rookie qb than him.
'tis a joke. Some dude keeps coming on here seemingly only to tell us that his sources say "were getting McCoy and Shipley" and then he disappears for a few days
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:43 PM   #92
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'tis a joke. Some dude keeps coming on here seemingly only to tell us that his sources say "were getting McCoy and Shipley" and then he disappears for a few days
pheww gotcha, dont scare me like that, or with the sanchez shinanigans either!
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:22 PM   #93
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so say for instance the colts decide to part ways with Peyton and release him next week, can anyone sign him immediately or do they have to wait unitl March when free agency begins. I wanna say immediately since he would be released and not another teams free agent but im not sure.
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so say for instance the colts decide to part ways with Peyton and release him next week, can anyone sign him immediately or do they have to wait unitl March when free agency begins. I wanna say immediately since he would be released and not another teams free agent but im not sure.

Have to wait.. I'm almost 100% sure
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Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

I think he would have to clear waivers. I don't see why he wouldn't be subject to the same waiver rules as everyone else [even if he is Peyton Manning]. I wonder if we could just claim him - if we could, we would have to pay the remainder of the contract he signed with the Colts.

If it is just a waiver claim, I am all for it. Hell, it's not my money.
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I think he would have to clear waivers. I don't see why he wouldn't be subject to the same waiver rules as everyone else [even if he is Peyton Manning]. I wonder if we could just claim him - if we could, we would have to pay the remainder of the contract he signed with the Colts.

If it is just a waiver claim, I am all for it. Hell, it's not my money.

I don't think the waiver wire applies during the off-season. Cut = Free Agent.


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Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

I see three options this off season.

RG3, Manning, or Flynn.

Anything else with the exception of the unlikely ones (Bradford/Luck/etc) don't make us better.
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I don't think the waiver wire applies during the off-season. Cut = Free Agent.


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Right. I forgot about the "Terminated Contract" category. I remember seeing it around free agency time in the past. It's interesting how the waiver process is suspended for only the two month after the season and before free agency AND how it only applies to "vested" players.
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Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

It's just like Atogwe. He was released by the Rams last year and was the one player we could sign before the league year started.

If the Colts release Manning he becomes completely free and it's immediately open season.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:56 PM   #100
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I've heard that's exactly what's going to happen. Colts will cut Manning any day now and he'll sign with the Redskins, just as Atogwe did last year.

Get your #18 jerseys ready!
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:10 PM   #101
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I've heard that's exactly what's going to happen. Colts will cut Manning any day now and he'll sign with the Redskins, just as Atogwe did last year.

Get your #18 jerseys ready!
So Terrance Austin jerseys? Where did you hear this?
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:12 PM   #102
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Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

Watching some of Osweiler's games on ESPN/Xbox Live.

Decided I would be cool signing Manning....if we get this kid as his successor in training for the next 3 years.

Planning if no RG3....plan A.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:25 PM   #103
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I've heard that's exactly what's going to happen. Colts will cut Manning any day now and he'll sign with the Redskins, just as Atogwe did last year.

Get your #18 jerseys ready!
thats what the skins are good at, signing aging FA's to sell some jerseys.
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So Terrance Austin jerseys? Where did you hear this?
Sure, Austin with the name Austin removed . To answer your question, I know 'some people.'
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thats what the skins are good at, signing aging FA's to sell some jerseys.
To be fair, the Redskins have been bad in recent years with FA's, but I think that was more thanks to the simple mind of Cerrato. Granted the McNabb expierement didn't work out, but they set the contract up perfectly to save themselves (which is what I'd expect they'd do with Peyton).

I think it's worth the gamble, assuming he is 100% healthy and passes all test. Peyton 50% is better than Grossman and Beck, but if he's 100% and some upgrades to the O line, could definitely sneak in the playoffs.
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