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Old 02-13-2012, 12:09 PM   #106
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I don't think it was a bone-headed score, that was the score that won the game for them. Was it ideal at the time? No, but as long as the Giants D took care of business (which they did) it wouldn't have mattered, (which it didn't). Besides, FG's are never guaranteed either, just ask our ST unit.
Plus, the guy has had it drilled in his head his whole life to seek the goal line with gusto. Then, that one time, he's supposed to automatically fight that conditioning? Obviously it can be done, as Brian Westbrook proved. But it is difficult.
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Plus, the guy has had it drilled in his head his whole life to seek the goal line with gusto. Then, that one time, he's supposed to automatically fight that conditioning? Obviously it can be done, as Brian Westbrook proved. But it is difficult.
That too. It's not easy to burst through a line at full speed, and then fall down at the 1 while making sure the ball doesn't break the plane, even in the event the Patriots defenders try to push you in (which I think they were preparing to do).
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I don't know. I mean if it were for me, it'd be really hard to resist getting the opportunity to score a TD in the Super Bowl. I probably would have run up and down the goal line for a few seconds. Maybe done a moonwalk or something...and then scored.
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I don't think it was a bone-headed score, that was the score that won the game for them. Was it ideal at the time? No, but as long as the Giants D took care of business (which they did) it wouldn't have mattered, (which it didn't). Besides, FG's are never guaranteed either, just ask our ST unit.
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Bradshaw should probably STFU. Kid almost blew the game for the Giants with his fumble and his bone headed score with time on the clock.
What do you expect him to say. The guy scored the game winning TD in the SB, he can say whatever the hell he wants in my book. Plus, since when do we care about what people say about the Cowpukes?
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Could anyone imagine how much ridicule the Giants would've taken if Bradshaw fell down at the 1, they run off the clock, and the field goal misses or gets blocked? If it were the Redskins in that scenario, I wouldn't have cared if they had scored the td or not. I would trust my defense to end the game.
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Could anyone imagine how much ridicule the Giants would've taken if Bradshaw fell down at the 1, they run off the clock, and the field goal misses or gets blocked? If it were the Redskins in that scenario, I wouldn't have cared if they had scored the td or not. I would trust my defense to end the game.
If the Pats would have needed a FG to win that game, they probably win it. Very different dynamic between needing a FG to win vs. needing a TD. As good as the Giants D played, I think Brady gets the Pats within FG range to win the game.

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So I was just watching Randy Moss' impromptu ustream session and he says he'd like to return to the NFL
I'm sure Brady could have used him in the SB. At least he would have been more useful than Ochocinco.
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So I was just watching Randy Moss' impromptu ustream session and he says he'd like to return to the NFL
good news. i hope he just stays away from DC, but i miss watching him play (when he wants to play).

Somebody like the Eagles I think would be attractive.
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Could anyone imagine how much ridicule the Giants would've taken if Bradshaw fell down at the 1, they run off the clock, and the field goal misses or gets blocked? If it were the Redskins in that scenario, I wouldn't have cared if they had scored the td or not. I would trust my defense to end the game.
No joke. Being too cute can come back to bite you.

What a weird topic this is. "How dare that football player score a touchdown! What was he thinking?"
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Could anyone imagine how much ridicule the Giants would've taken if Bradshaw fell down at the 1, they run off the clock, and the field goal misses or gets blocked? If it were the Redskins in that scenario, I wouldn't have cared .

So you are saying only the Giants were going to get ridiculed,no other team in that situation would, if the Redskin were in the SB and did'nt score and missed a a FG ......you would'nt have cared?:confused:
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So you are saying only the Giants were going to get ridiculed,no other team in that situation would, if the Redskin were in the SB and did'nt score and missed a a FG ......you would'nt have cared?:confused:
Really? Like really really? Fo' realz? Any team in that situation. Giants just being the example because they were the team in that specific situation. Wow. And people think I'm the one getting testy up in here? My whole point is basically what Lotus said, what happens if you get too cute (just to make you happy I'll put the Redskins in this example ), you run the clock all the way down, and then you miss the field goal and the other team wins? Wow. Come on Giantone. You're better than that. Of course the Redskins would get ridiculed, as they'd have deserved to. The defense allows you free points and you decline?
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If the Pats would have needed a FG to win that game, they probably win it. Very different dynamic between needing a FG to win vs. needing a TD. As good as the Giants D played, I think Brady gets the Pats within FG range to win the game.



I'm sure Brady could have used him in the SB. At least he would have been more useful than Ochocinco.
In that scenario, the Pats don't get the opportunity to drive down for the field goal.

The entire scenario:

Redskins (just for you Giantone ) are losing to the Pats 15-17, it's the 2 min drill, and the ball is at the Pats 12 with a minute left. Shanny instructs Helu to run the ball up the middle and if the Pats allow him to score, he needs to fall down at the 1 instead so they can run the time off the clock and kick a field goal with 10 seconds left.

Instead what happens is Helu doesn't expect the red seas to part, and by the time he slows down he's already taken the ball past the plane of the goal line. Our defense goes on to stop the Pats offense and we win the game.

Now this is where the alternate scenario kicks in. Alternate being; Helu goes down at the one, we run down the clock, and AMG Gano or someone on ST f's up the kick and we lose. Pats win 17-15.

Before that scenario even starts, if I'm Shanny I'm telling Helu that if they allow you to score, you take it. You don't know what will happen, but you know the odds are probably about the same that your defense can stop the Pats offense (especially considering the way they've ((they've meaning the Giants D in this particular scenario)) been playing the whole game) as your field goal unit missing the kick (meaning the Redskins fg unit that was trashy the whole season).

Just to summarize, if we lose the game because we ran the clock down and missed the field goal, we deserve to be criticized, no matter the team.
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I understand everything,this is where you through me off.."the alternate scenario".
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I wonder if Timmy has seen this.

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