Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

BigHairedAristocrat · 02-08-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It does mean the franchise tag can't go on someone else.

Fletcher is our most valuable free agent, but ive got no reason to think we wont work something out. After that, who else on our team that is a FA worth franchising? Landry would be the closest bet, but i think both he and the team are ready to move on. Even if we did want him, no one is going to offer him money equal to what the franchise tender would pay due to his injury history, so we could sign him on the cheap.

as far as davis goes, i'm 100% behind franchising him. Its just a one year deal at a reasonable cost. considering he's one joint away from being suspended a whole year, a one year deal is perfect for him. It gives Davis a year to prove he can stay clean and prove he deserves the big payday. If he plays well, hes more than worth top 5 TE money in a long-term deal. If not, its only one year so were really using 5 MM in cap space on him. GREAT value in my opinion .

FRPLG · 02-08-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Now that I think about it. Trade him on draft day.

Trade him....

Trade a guy who was suspended 4 games for failing a drug test and is one failed test away from a years suspension.

Trade a guy who spent three years trying to make Skins fans forget he was the one who overslept his first day of training camp.

Sure there'll be a bunch of takers for that. We'd be lucky to get a 4th rounder for him. Even that sounds ludicrous as I type it.

mooby · 02-08-2012, 05:29 PM

If I'm the Redskins, which last time I checked I'm not, I give Davis a reasonable deal (5 years, 27 mil, morality clause or w/e you want to call it that gives the Skins multiple options in case he fails another drug test), and then give Landry the franchise tag. I don't think we need to create another hole on the roster if Landry leaves. He can still be an impact player for us. This would most definitely be his last chance though, and I'd just give him a 1 year deal to prove himself again. Honestly I think it speaks volumes that none of us are even mentioning Fletcher. I really hope it's not a big concern at all.

FRPLG · 02-08-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Seems everyone else is saying how valuable he is as our most explosive offensive talent. I don't value him as much. I'm just saying if the Skins decide to trade up in the draft why not consider throwing in Fred Davis.

Because he is worth nothing to other teams...or close to nothing. Players whom a team is familiar with and who the team knows fits the system are always worth more to their team than they are to other teams.

We couldn't get more than a late rounder for him...but we'd have to sign him in some way first. As a franchised guy he isn't worth anything at all unless the other team can work out a long-term deal...and if we resign him straight up we'd probably have him at a reasonable cost...so why trade him?

A trade doesn't seem to make any sense or even be remotely in the cards.

mlmdub130 · 02-08-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

landry sucks... he could be good, but only if he could get on the field and was never asked to cover anyone.

if fred davis gets suspended, i heard that we get the money back for whatever games he misses, so why not? there are only two guys on this team you'd franchise this year (davis/landry) and both safety and TE are very cheap tags...

can someone clarify this, i thought that if you franchise tag some one their salary is garanteed, is there as clause about being suspended? it would make sense.

mlmdub130 · 02-08-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Seems everyone else is saying how valuable he is as our most explosive offensive talent. I don't value him as much. I'm just saying if the Skins decide to trade up in the draft why not consider throwing in Fred Davis.

because the juice would not be worth the squeeze. his value to us is higher than it would be to any other teams.

mlmdub130 · 02-08-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

If I'm the Redskins, which last time I checked I'm not, I give Davis a reasonable deal (5 years, 27 mil, morality clause or w/e you want to call it that gives the Skins multiple options in case he fails another drug test), and then give Landry the franchise tag. I don't think we need to create another hole on the roster if Landry leaves. He can still be an impact player for us. This would most definitely be his last chance though, and I'd just give him a 1 year deal to prove himself again. Honestly I think it speaks volumes that none of us are even mentioning Fletcher. I really hope it's not a big concern at all.

the problem with your thinking is that if landry does have the surgery he will be out for a year, meaning he will miss next season. the longer and longer this drags on only means bad things for both dirty landry and the redskins. at this point i am just waiting to hear that he is released, and it f-ing sucks cause like you said it's just one more whole.

as far as fletch is concerned i am under thr impression that this front office is not chock full of ruhtards and will be an easy re-sign. from all accounts fletch loves it here and has proven his value. if he doesn't get a nice sized deal for about 3-4 years that would be a huge surprise to me, i see him retiring here.

redskin29633 · 02-08-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think we should be able to keep him without the franchise tag. Even if he goes out and looks, I doubt many teams will offer up a lot knowing he's one strike away from being out for the season, you talk nice to him, let him look, and then make a reasonable offer. He is a good weapon, but it's not the end if he were to hook up somewhere else.

Absolutely right; not many teams will bid on a FA TE who has shown a lack of discipline off the field. Plus Davis will be subject to even harsher penalties if he stumbles again with recreational drugs.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-08-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Seems everyone else is saying how valuable he is as our most explosive offensive talent. I don't value him as much. I'm just saying if the Skins decide to trade up in the draft why not consider throwing in Fred Davis.

Because a good TE is a young QBs best friend.

Cam Newton-Greg Olsen/Jeremy Shockey
Christian Ponder-Kyle Rudolph
Matt Ryan-Tony Gonzalez
Matt Stafford-Brandon Pettigrew
Robert Griffin III/Ryan Tannehill-Fred Davis/Chris Cooley

That Guy · 02-08-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

can someone clarify this, i thought that if you franchise tag some one their salary is garanteed, is there as clause about being suspended? it would make sense.

I'd have to try and find something, but they've mentioned it on 980 two or three times in the last month about "apparantly the NFL has..." about getting money back for games missed due to suspensions if we worked out a long term deal with him (as in, it would be handled at the nfl level, not at the "redskins must include it in the deal" level if it became an issue).

I don't know if that applies to tags as well, but I wouldn't be surprised.

that's assuming what I heard is correct, but I do believe it to be.

30gut · 02-09-2012, 12:07 AM

Fred Davis is arguably our best receiver.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 02-09-2012, 12:13 AM

My sources tell me that Manning really wants to work with FD and they are going to keep him.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 02-09-2012, 12:22 AM

Diehard- I think the only thing that would turn teams off to FD is the drug deal. Other than that the kid is at least a top 10 TE in the league.

NC_Skins · 02-09-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Fred Davis is arguably our best receiver.

He presents the biggest match-up problems, wouldn't say he's our best receiver though.

CultBrennan59 · 02-09-2012, 12:32 AM

Its pretty simple in terms of Fred Davis;

You sign him to a long term deal, but put a clause in there that if he smokes weed or gets caught with it, the Skins don't have to pay him out the rest of the contract and he's donezo.

02-08-2012, 05:29 PM	#18
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag If I'm the Redskins, which last time I checked I'm not, I give Davis a reasonable deal (5 years, 27 mil, morality clause or w/e you want to call it that gives the Skins multiple options in case he fails another drug test), and then give Landry the franchise tag. I don't think we need to create another hole on the roster if Landry leaves. He can still be an impact player for us. This would most definitely be his last chance though, and I'd just give him a 1 year deal to prove himself again. Honestly I think it speaks volumes that none of us are even mentioning Fletcher. I really hope it's not a big concern at all.

02-09-2012, 12:07 AM	#26
30gut The Starter Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,075	Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag Fred Davis is arguably our best receiver. __________________ No longer were NFL coaches dealing inflexibly with spread [QBs] in ways that caused stunted development for players like [A. Smith and Vick] now, the idea is to bring what the quarterback can do, and what he should do, together as an organic whole

02-09-2012, 12:13 AM	#27
artmonkforhallofamein07 HST - "Hey Rube" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 3,910	Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag My sources tell me that Manning really wants to work with FD and they are going to keep him. __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/

02-09-2012, 12:22 AM	#28
artmonkforhallofamein07 HST - "Hey Rube" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 3,910	Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag Diehard- I think the only thing that would turn teams off to FD is the drug deal. Other than that the kid is at least a top 10 TE in the league. __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/

02-09-2012, 12:32 AM	#30
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,594	Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag Its pretty simple in terms of Fred Davis; You sign him to a long term deal, but put a clause in there that if he smokes weed or gets caught with it, the Skins don't have to pay him out the rest of the contract and he's donezo. __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

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