Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-08-2012, 04:46 PM   #16
Registered User
 
BigHairedAristocrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,917
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTripp0012 View Post
It does mean the franchise tag can't go on someone else.
Fletcher is our most valuable free agent, but ive got no reason to think we wont work something out. After that, who else on our team that is a FA worth franchising? Landry would be the closest bet, but i think both he and the team are ready to move on. Even if we did want him, no one is going to offer him money equal to what the franchise tender would pay due to his injury history, so we could sign him on the cheap.

as far as davis goes, i'm 100% behind franchising him. Its just a one year deal at a reasonable cost. considering he's one joint away from being suspended a whole year, a one year deal is perfect for him. It gives Davis a year to prove he can stay clean and prove he deserves the big payday. If he plays well, hes more than worth top 5 TE money in a long-term deal. If not, its only one year so were really using 5 MM in cap space on him. GREAT value in my opinion .
BigHairedAristocrat is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 02-08-2012, 05:19 PM   #17
Franchise Player
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 9,914
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by diehard View Post
Now that I think about it. Trade him on draft day.
Trade him....

Trade a guy who was suspended 4 games for failing a drug test and is one failed test away from a years suspension.

Trade a guy who spent three years trying to make Skins fans forget he was the one who overslept his first day of training camp.

Sure there'll be a bunch of takers for that. We'd be lucky to get a 4th rounder for him. Even that sounds ludicrous as I type it.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2012, 05:29 PM   #18
MVP
 
mooby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NoVa
Age: 26
Posts: 11,810
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

If I'm the Redskins, which last time I checked I'm not, I give Davis a reasonable deal (5 years, 27 mil, morality clause or w/e you want to call it that gives the Skins multiple options in case he fails another drug test), and then give Landry the franchise tag. I don't think we need to create another hole on the roster if Landry leaves. He can still be an impact player for us. This would most definitely be his last chance though, and I'd just give him a 1 year deal to prove himself again. Honestly I think it speaks volumes that none of us are even mentioning Fletcher. I really hope it's not a big concern at all.
mooby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2012, 05:29 PM   #19
Franchise Player
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 9,914
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by diehard View Post
Seems everyone else is saying how valuable he is as our most explosive offensive talent. I don't value him as much. I'm just saying if the Skins decide to trade up in the draft why not consider throwing in Fred Davis.
Because he is worth nothing to other teams...or close to nothing. Players whom a team is familiar with and who the team knows fits the system are always worth more to their team than they are to other teams.

We couldn't get more than a late rounder for him...but we'd have to sign him in some way first. As a franchised guy he isn't worth anything at all unless the other team can work out a long-term deal...and if we resign him straight up we'd probably have him at a reasonable cost...so why trade him?

A trade doesn't seem to make any sense or even be remotely in the cards.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2012, 07:12 PM   #20
Playmaker
 
mlmdub130's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 3,158
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
landry sucks... he could be good, but only if he could get on the field and was never asked to cover anyone.

if fred davis gets suspended, i heard that we get the money back for whatever games he misses, so why not? there are only two guys on this team you'd franchise this year (davis/landry) and both safety and TE are very cheap tags...
can someone clarify this, i thought that if you franchise tag some one their salary is garanteed, is there as clause about being suspended? it would make sense.
__________________
"I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason."

ST21
mlmdub130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2012, 07:14 PM   #21
Playmaker
 
mlmdub130's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 3,158
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by diehard View Post
Seems everyone else is saying how valuable he is as our most explosive offensive talent. I don't value him as much. I'm just saying if the Skins decide to trade up in the draft why not consider throwing in Fred Davis.
because the juice would not be worth the squeeze. his value to us is higher than it would be to any other teams.
__________________
"I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason."

ST21
mlmdub130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2012, 07:23 PM   #22
Playmaker
 
mlmdub130's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 3,158
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by mooby View Post
If I'm the Redskins, which last time I checked I'm not, I give Davis a reasonable deal (5 years, 27 mil, morality clause or w/e you want to call it that gives the Skins multiple options in case he fails another drug test), and then give Landry the franchise tag. I don't think we need to create another hole on the roster if Landry leaves. He can still be an impact player for us. This would most definitely be his last chance though, and I'd just give him a 1 year deal to prove himself again. Honestly I think it speaks volumes that none of us are even mentioning Fletcher. I really hope it's not a big concern at all.
the problem with your thinking is that if landry does have the surgery he will be out for a year, meaning he will miss next season. the longer and longer this drags on only means bad things for both dirty landry and the redskins. at this point i am just waiting to hear that he is released, and it f-ing sucks cause like you said it's just one more whole.

as far as fletch is concerned i am under thr impression that this front office is not chock full of ruhtards and will be an easy re-sign. from all accounts fletch loves it here and has proven his value. if he doesn't get a nice sized deal for about 3-4 years that would be a huge surprise to me, i see him retiring here.
__________________
"I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason."

ST21
mlmdub130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2012, 07:42 PM   #23
Special Teams
 
redskin29633's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 152
Exclamation Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule View Post
I think we should be able to keep him without the franchise tag. Even if he goes out and looks, I doubt many teams will offer up a lot knowing he's one strike away from being out for the season, you talk nice to him, let him look, and then make a reasonable offer. He is a good weapon, but it's not the end if he were to hook up somewhere else.
Absolutely right; not many teams will bid on a FA TE who has shown a lack of discipline off the field. Plus Davis will be subject to even harsher penalties if he stumbles again with recreational drugs.
redskin29633 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2012, 07:54 PM   #24
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 25
Posts: 11,899
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by diehard View Post
Seems everyone else is saying how valuable he is as our most explosive offensive talent. I don't value him as much. I'm just saying if the Skins decide to trade up in the draft why not consider throwing in Fred Davis.
Because a good TE is a young QBs best friend.

Cam Newton-Greg Olsen/Jeremy Shockey
Christian Ponder-Kyle Rudolph
Matt Ryan-Tony Gonzalez
Matt Stafford-Brandon Pettigrew
Robert Griffin III/Ryan Tannehill-Fred Davis/Chris Cooley
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2012, 09:37 PM   #25
Living Legend
 
That Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Springfield, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 16,245
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlmdub130 View Post
can someone clarify this, i thought that if you franchise tag some one their salary is garanteed, is there as clause about being suspended? it would make sense.
I'd have to try and find something, but they've mentioned it on 980 two or three times in the last month about "apparantly the NFL has..." about getting money back for games missed due to suspensions if we worked out a long term deal with him (as in, it would be handled at the nfl level, not at the "redskins must include it in the deal" level if it became an issue).

I don't know if that applies to tags as well, but I wouldn't be surprised.

that's assuming what I heard is correct, but I do believe it to be.
__________________
Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!
That Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2012, 12:07 AM   #26
The Starter
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,099
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Fred Davis is arguably our best receiver.
__________________
No longer were NFL coaches dealing inflexibly with spread [QBs] in ways that caused stunted development for players like [A. Smith and Vick] now, the idea is to bring what the quarterback can do, and what he should do, together as an organic whole
30gut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2012, 12:13 AM   #27
Playmaker
 
artmonkforhallofamein07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Charleston , SC
Posts: 4,658
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

My sources tell me that Manning really wants to work with FD and they are going to keep him.
__________________
Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins!

Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6

Year 2 - 3-10... Benched 14 weeks to late.....

Year 3 - Pure Awesomeness!!

http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/
artmonkforhallofamein07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2012, 12:22 AM   #28
Playmaker
 
artmonkforhallofamein07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Charleston , SC
Posts: 4,658
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Diehard- I think the only thing that would turn teams off to FD is the drug deal. Other than that the kid is at least a top 10 TE in the league.
__________________
Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins!

Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6

Year 2 - 3-10... Benched 14 weeks to late.....

Year 3 - Pure Awesomeness!!

http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/
artmonkforhallofamein07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2012, 12:26 AM   #29
MVP
 
NC_Skins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 10,380
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by 30gut View Post
Fred Davis is arguably our best receiver.
He presents the biggest match-up problems, wouldn't say he's our best receiver though.
__________________
"So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty
NC_Skins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2012, 12:52 AM   #30
Pro Bowl
 
SirClintonPortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
Re: Fred Davis May get Franchise Tag

Quote:
Originally Posted by diehard View Post
I guess the question is, where does Fred Davis rank in the entire league? Top half? Top 10? Top 5? That's absurd to think he's not valued much to other teams but he means the world to "us".
He ranks below Graham, Gronkowski, Gates, Vernon Davis, Hernandez, Witten and Gonzalez. After that, it's up for full debate.
__________________
Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness".

Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten.

The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

Last edited by SirClintonPortis; 02-09-2012 at 12:53 AM. Reason: Forgot Witten
SirClintonPortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28563 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25