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Sign Peyton Manning 43 32.82%
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:39 AM   #511
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According to McShay and Kiper the price of the 2nd overall pick is likely to come down a bit after free agency when the Manning and Flynn sweepstakes end. And not only does St. Louis have to consider how far they'll be willing to drop but they'll also have to accept that Minnesota might be more flexible on price.
It might, but it might not either. I could see the Rams thinking just like half the fans here.... how can we pass up on such a good talent and take him for themselves. How do we swindle them into making the trade? by offering enough picks that they can't refuse.

I could see the Browns thinking the same thing. There has been more talk of the Browns wanting RGIII at any cost. They have 2 first round picks.

Little talk of Seattle maybe wanting to jump everyone for RGIII.

I think we all know what the going rate is by the chart but I can also see the Rams turning this into an auction driving the price up.
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Just because Manning may be interested in playing for Houston doesn't mean he doesn't want to Here either
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Just because Manning may be interested in playing for Houston doesn't mean he doesn't want to Here either
Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:26 AM   #514
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What we do in FA QB wise should have nothing to do with what we do in the draft QB wise. Do we want to have Grossman and Beck back next year? no. So there will be a need to fill 1 spot with a Vet. The other with a drafted QB.

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Flynn- my choice only because he's still young and healthy. Showed he can make all the throws. The question...can he play all 16 games well and mistake free?

Orton- with the Bears he replaced Grossman because of injury. During the play offs Grossman replaced Orton. Orton didn't see the field for 2 yrs after. Basically a backup. If he can't beat Grossman there is a problem. Nuff said. I don't want him.

Peyton Manning- Best there is if healthy but thats the question. Money is not an issue since we have 40-45 mill, no way he commands near that amount. Plenty of room to sign other FA's. Healthy he's obviously the starter allowing whatever Rookie to develope. If he's not healthy by Sept. the Rookie starts. For this reason alone I'm interested in PM.

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Luck- not available. Colts. but if he is not picked would be nice to have him at #6.

RGIII- No matter what the team does in FA they can still trade up and get RGIII if they so choose. He's a top talent and the only thing that makes him different then other top talents is his legs. Are his legs worth it to move up? I don't think so. If he falls to #6 take him otherwise there is no need to mortgage the team. Its a luxury to have him but we could get 3 or 4 more players to fill spots in other positions. Would you trade the same picks for Flynn? cause he's just as much of an unknown. Although he has played in 2 games and proven he can beat a really good Lions defense. RGIII has not even done that.

The Rest- I see the rest as a big group because I don't see any one QB standing out from each other or atleast not that far from each other. I might also be in the minority in thinking that almost anyone of them with a good OL, and talented WR's could possibly start and provide us with a half decent season. Better then Grossman or Beck. Optimism at its best. I'd look for a tall 6'3" or 6'4" + QB around the 240 range which is what Ben Rothlesburger is. Solid and hard to bring down.

Again I don't see how FA should hinder what we do in the draft. We could get PM who almost no one would argue he's one of the best QB's when healthy and still trade up for RGIII. Get a couple FA WR's and draft some OL. If PM is healthy we win with the best QB in the league and RGIII developes and learns from the best. If PM is not ready to start then RGIII starts. So PM really shouldn't matter to the RGIII fans. If nothing else they should want him since they think he's done. RGIII would start.

I personally like the idea of PM if we can't get Flynn. I don't mind RGIII if he fell to #6 sure take him, but I'd rather use the other 2 draft picks this year to trade back if possible and turning 2 picks into 4. This brings in more youth, more speed, more help, and more talent to back up someone if there is an injury. Look we kept all of our draft picks last year if I'm not too far off and the majority started at some point. I'd love for us to do that again.

But face facts... this team is gunna want 1 Vet and a drafted Rookie going into next year. I'd rather it not be Grossman or Beck as the Vet. No Flynn- take PM. We'll worry about the draft a month later. After we see what we can do in FA and what talent we bring in.
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Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender
Hmmm..... and the Skins are not that? the Skins played better then the year before, the OL got better by the end of the year creating nice holes for the RB to run through, there was better protection, and we beat the SB champs twice. <- I now that may not mean much but it shows the Skins can contend.

3rd year in the same system, OL understanding their assignments better, combined with a really good run game, and I don't care what anyone says our defense was one of the best limiting teams to 20 or less points most of the time. Thats what you want. Look at the Patriots they gave up the most yrds all year but teams had a hard time scoring on them. Thats pretty much us. 5-11 doesn't sound like a contender but you have to look at the overall play and in most of those games the Skins lost by like 3 points. Get a decent QB and decent WR's and that alone could be the difference of getting a few more 1st downs for a field goal, or even 1 more TD per game.
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Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender
If he's healthy he makes any team he plays for a Super Bowl contender. See the Colts for proof...Super bowl contender with him and worst team in the league without him.
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The Skins are not as far as some of u guys think.. No one looks good with REX/BECK combo.. In fact we had a chance to sweep Dallas also, so 7-8 wins this year was in reach
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:04 AM   #518
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It amazes still how delusion some fans are as to where this team is. If you beleive we are a PM away from a Super Bowl then you need to put the bottle down.

I be surprised if we are a wild card team next year.
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It amazes still how delusion some fans are as to where this team is. If you beleive we are a PM away from a Super Bowl then you need to put the bottle down.

I be surprised if we are a wild card team next year.

Never said we are a SB contender but a playoff team? I think with Manning YES we are a 9-10 win team
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Also John Clayton said on SC a few Mins ago that Houston will not pursue Manning
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I be ok with PM and a rookie QB if they both suck we go after the next great QB in the draft.

I stil lsay give Indy whatever they hell they want for Luck and be done with it.
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LOL Yes I want LUCK over anyone
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It amazes still how delusion some fans are as to where this team is. If you beleive we are a PM away from a Super Bowl then you need to put the bottle down.

I be surprised if we are a wild card team next year.
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I think trading for Luck will set us back a bit too but as he grows over the years we start plugging pieces around him. It is the one position in the NFL that makes or breaks a team.

come on just do it!
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That was great stuff!
agreed. the writer is updating that article line, as new people come out and talk about PM to the Redskins.
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