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Old 02-15-2012, 10:27 AM   #646
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If MS does this and we have a losing season, then I would be fine with him being fired at the end of the season.

Also, what pies are you talking about here? Apple? Pecan? LOL.
I would assume Boston Cream Pies aka the King of all pies.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:35 AM   #647
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If MS does this and we have a losing season, then I would be fine with him being fired at the end of the season.

Also, what pies are you talking about here? Apple? Pecan? LOL.
Key Lime, Sweet Potato, and Apple

What if he trades up for RG3 and we have a losing season?

What if he gets Manning and Tannehill and we have a losing season?
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Thanks SS.

In terms of "Other Journeyman", I was thinking of Hoyer or Flynn. Someone who could come in and be the presumed starter while our draftee sits for a few games, maybe the year if necessary.

Outside of Flynn, Hoyer (who I thought was being considered only as a back-up) who else do you consider? Henne? Josh Johnson or Clausen (I thought they were only being considered as back up material). Really, not sure who else is out there that could step in and start.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:49 AM   #650
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Thanks SS.

In terms of "Other Journeyman", I was thinking of Hoyer or Flynn. Someone who could come in and be the presumed starter while our draftee sits for a few games, maybe the year if necessary.

Outside of Flynn, Hoyer (who I thought was being considered only as a back-up) who else do you consider? Henne? Josh Johnson or Clausen (I thought they were only being considered as back up material). Really, not sure who else is out there that could step in and start.
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But seriously yeah I think someone like Hoyer starts here. Or at least is given every chance to start. So i still think you could see a trade for Hoyer/draft Foles (just tossing that name out there as an option) and those are your 2 new QBs vying for the starting spot with Hoyer having the edge.

Haven't heard anything about Henne. Hear they're not interested in Flynn. Johnson is kind of being considered but I don't think it's so serious. Clausen definitely being considered but not as a starter
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Key Lime, Sweet Potato, and Apple

What if he trades up for RG3 and we have a losing season?

What if he gets Manning and Tannehill and we have a losing season?
Mmmmmm pie.

Anyway, good questions. To me a journeyman QB and a developmental QB are basically going in the same direction as we did last year in terms of that position. MS' willingness to go into the season with a question mark at QB to me is a bigger risk than PM or RG3. And regardless of how it happens, if he has a losing season with a journeyman QB, I just don't see how he keeps his job.

If we trade up to get RG3, I actually expect the possibility of having a losing season. However, I feel that making this move would be heading in the right direction, especially if the team shows improvements in the offense. I think this would warrant another year of MS to see how he is able to improve a rookie QB.

If we lose with Manning, my opinion would depend on how we lost. If we have a losing season because MS/KS would not adjust their gameplan to PM, then the Shanahans should be fired. If we have a losing season b/c someone overlooked something in regards to PM's health (i.e. we sign him when he is not healthy), then that would be unexcusable and someone should get fired over that.
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Bringing in Clausen would solve one of the needs the team has had the last two years, which would be having someone Mike trusts on the roster at quarterback at the end of the season who can play meaningful minutes in a lost season, who is under contract for the next season.

Beck was that guy this year, but as the calendar turned to December, nobody wanted to play him. Clausen has low stock, but he's 25, and do we really know that he's a worse player than Bradford? I certainly suspect he is, but he would seem for the world to be the much better investment of the two.
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Mmmmmm pie.

Anyway, good questions. To me a journeyman QB and a developmental QB are basically going in the same direction as we did last year in terms of that position. MS' willingness to go into the season with a question mark at QB to me is a bigger risk than PM or RG3. And regardless of how it happens, if he has a losing season with a journeyman QB, I just don't see how he keeps his job.

If we trade up to get RG3, I actually expect the possibility of having a losing season. However, I feel that making this move would be heading in the right direction, especially if the team shows improvements in the offense. I think this would warrant another year of MS to see how he is able to improve a rookie QB.

If we lose with Manning, my opinion would depend on how we lost. If we have a losing season because MS/KS would not adjust their gameplan to PM, then the Shanahans should be fired. If we have a losing season b/c someone overlooked something in regards to PM's health (i.e. we sign him when he is not healthy), then that would be unexcusable and someone should get fired over that.
Don't see who the "developmental" guy was last year. Crompton? He was just a late addition bargain pickup. I get your point, but if the developmental guy is drafted high, i.e. 1st or 2nd round, I think (& hope) there is still some room for patience, especially if they finish the season strong and/or the developmental qb gets some time & looks good late in year.
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Don't see who the "developmental" guy was last year. Crompton? He was just a late addition bargain pickup. I get your point, but if the developmental guy is drafted high, i.e. 1st or 2nd round, I think (& hope) there is still some room for patience, especially if they finish the season strong and/or the developmental qb gets some time & looks good late in year.
I just don't want a mediocre journeyman to be our best option at QB. And you are right, there was no developmental QB last year, but still I don't want some mediocre QB to be our best option (and that's what happened last year). Also, I feel that MS needs to do something that makes sense and looks promising next season, because he wasted two years on a washed up McNabb and pinning his hopes on mediocre/backups at best QBs.
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Neither. I say if RGIII doesn't fall to 6th, then trade down, add more picks, draft DeCastro and then Tannehill in the 2nd round plus whatever other pick we get if a trade is possible.
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I say we try and get RG3 and not wait to see if he falls to us. I know it is a risk but this guy is a special talent. In order to get a reward you have to take a risk, Im tired of being an alright team and i do not want another year with a quarterback from another team that is just ok or alright.
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Flynn is a system QB though. I doubt he'd work here.
Just wondering everytime I hear this....

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Flynn's 6 tds against Detroit was a fluke. Go back and watch the tape.
Ok, I'll take the fluke. Detroit has a stout defense. He moved the ball well. He made good decisions. Thats not Detroit thats him. On top of that saying it was a fluke is to say the whole Detroit team had a really bad day and sucked. Which is why Flynn did so well.
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