Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

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and I think my problem is I don't know that RGIII is what we are looking for. I would love for everyone to be right. I'd love to be one of those teams that has a 500 year and goes out next year and gets the rest of what we need to make it to the play offs, but I have this major concern that we trade up and get him and he's a failure in our system. (for you system guys). Has trouble with his footwork, has trouble reading the defenses in front of him, so on and so forth. Then we are in a situation having spent 3-4 draft picks, down 3-4 quality players and even more if those picks were doubled, and yes most likely MS's coaching would be over here. Consistancy gone.

I feel like it's a trap. However if he brings in someone like a Flynn or Hoyer, drafts a 2nd tier QB, picks up a WR or 2 in FA, and drafts a WR, hopefully trading back like last year to create more opportunities to get something right he has a better opportunity to capitalize on his return.

1- a young FA QB
2- a young drafted QB
that alone is 2 more chances to get something right.

3- 2 FA WR's
4- 1 drafted WR
that alone gives us 3 chances to get decent production.

and if they took another QB late in the draft with some OL, and a FS the team should better off along with the fact they would have a full compliment of picks the following year to again get more talent on this team.

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talked about on the radio, basically the surgery would probably need to be done after his career is over or atleast what the discussion is on the radio. Not another surgery before he can play again.

the big news though is that he had 4 surgeries vs. what everyone thought was only 3. He kept one secret but again on the readio their saying most likely this is something most teams knew about but the fans wouldn't have knowledge of.

GMScud

I suppose that's possible, but Irsay has been a bit of a nut for a long time, on or off the bottle. Got it from his father.

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Mechanix544

I would not like the scenario, because it could dictate on draft day if we make a big REACH for our QB (ie grabbing Tanneheel with the 6th pick because all of the viable FA options are gone.....)

note...... That is, unless, they roll the dice with Grossman again this upcoming season, and then i slit my wrists and die.

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This article simply points out exactly what another article actually mentioned and that was RGIII has great long ball accuracy. Timing is great on his deep ball also. Basically put he can throw the deep ball and he can throw the short ball but he has trouble with the intermediate routes which might be the only thing open with the 3-4 zone defenses.

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Those that are not ready to leave the game but have to coach. With his knowledge right now he'd be better served retiring and getting picked up as a QB coach assistant to which he can pass on all his knowledge about the QB position and the offensive scheme he was apart of for so many years. Which is why I was hoping we would go get him.

Lotus

To be fair to Irsay, he is in a tough spot which I don't envy. If Manning walks then Irsay is the bad man who chased the greatest Colt in history out of town. If he keeps Manning then he's out $28 million for a QB who may not be durable and who may stand in the way of a reloaded future. Irsay is kind of damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't.

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He must be sippen on that syrup again. LOL:cool-smil

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One neat way to ensure there is a lot of questions and not a lot of suiters for when you cut PM and hope to be the team to bring him back on a lower salary.

If I was PM I'd be pissed about all the negative info the Colts are putting out and basically tell them I would not be interested in a new contract or any type of restructure. I'd be ready to leave.

SmootSmack

So it was apparently Mannings camp that leaked the info about the 4th surgery and trying to play at the end of last year

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mooby

Why would they? That information can't help his cause.

GMScud

It's a tough spot. If I'm not mistaken, Manning's camp has leaked that he'd be willing to sign a contract that is loaded with mostly performance/playing time based incentives.

Irsay basically gave him almost $30M for nothing this past season. Can you fault the guy for not wanting to do it again? Peyton Manning would count for about $35M towards the Colts salary cap next year ($7M in base pay plus the bonus I think). That's a gigantic number for a guy who's health is a total question mark. Colt or not, I don't think there' s a snowball's chance in hell Manning ever sees that $28M.

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30gut

Wow, it really is the offseason.

All this time I thought you were supposed to judge the outcome of an injury after rehab is complete?

I had no idea you could look at someone in the middle of rehab and consider that the end result.

The sports media is on a fast track to becoming no better then the tabloids.
Playing fast and loss with the meaning of 'procedure' vs 'surgery'.
The list of medical treatments that can be considered 'procedure' or 'surgery' is very long.

Also, I don't understand the notion that signing Peyton prevents the team from building through the draft.

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