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Old 02-17-2012, 10:47 AM   #916
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This is where we diverge.
Although I think Weeden has 'plus' arm talent I don't think its on the elite NFL level which is where I put Flacco's.
I see Weeden as a less mobile but stronger armed Andy Dalton.
Regardless of how many reads or how far along any QB prospect is right now; to have success at the next level they're all gonna have to become more effecient multiple progression read QBs.
Whether its Weeden or any other prospect.
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Which includes RGIII. His knock is he stares down his receivers, does not go through his progressions well. Usually only throwing to his first read rarely making it to his second before taking off running. He's gunna need a lot of work on this.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:58 AM   #917
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Josh Johnson would likely not be a starter

Nor would Jimmy Clausen for that matter

Yeah I believe Hoyer is the main under the radar guy not being talked about

annnnnnnddddddd Mark Sanchez!

Seriously though, I just feel like Manning's not coming here because I don't get the sense there is a strong "passion" to bring him here from the group of decision makers. They're probably more passionate about Orton (they did nearly acquire him twice after all), relatively speaking. And...truthishly...Hoyer and Clausen are two names that always kind of stay in the conversation while others tend to come and go

So I could see trade a 3rd for Hoyer, sign Clausen, use the 2nd to get a Foles/Cousins type
So, you are saying the sources you have are telling you that our front office, of the washington redskins.............ahem, let me clear my throat, ahem.......okay.....ugh, uh uh hmmmmmmmm, alright, Im ready, is more passionate about Kyle orton, hold up, let me wipe the bit of vomit from around my crusty bottom lip........., ok, as I was saying, they are more passionate about Kyle Orton, than Peyton Manning.

If that is the truth, than the ego of the front office, sorry to say, is completely out of fvckin hand.

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Old 02-17-2012, 11:00 AM   #918
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So, you are saying the sources you have are telling you that our front office, of the washington redskins.............ahem, let me clear my throat, ahem.......okay.....ugh, uh uh hmmmmmmmm, alright, Im ready, is more passionate about Kyle orton, hold up, let me wipe the bit of vomit from around my crusty bottom lip........., ok, as I was saying, they are more passionate about Kyle Orton, than Peyton Manning.

Well, lemme say something. Your sources ****IN SUCK. If that is the truth, than the ego of the front office, sorry to say, is completely out of fvckin hand.
Boy, this really came out of left field. I'm not a huge fan of Orton either but it's a moot point if Manning can't return. Besides, even if we sign Orton it doesn't mean they plan on him being here long term.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:12 AM   #919
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there, I prettied it up.

No disrespect to SS, but if they indeed are "passionate" in any way about Kyle Orton, well, I dunno. I guess it makes me want to cry. We can do better than Kyle Orton people. Arent the fans 0f the washington redskins due for some good qb play? Dont just settle for (fill in the blank) when talking about your next qb, GO AND GET HIM!!!!!!
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Well, Orton certainly comes with a lot less risk. Let's not think that Orton solves the QB dilemma. We'll still draft someone. And there's still the chance PM stays in Indy, or simply chooses another team.
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there, I prettied it up.

No disrespect to SS, but if they indeed are "passionate" in any way about Kyle Orton, well, I dunno. I guess it makes me want to cry. We can do better than Kyle Orton people. Arent the fans 0f the washington redskins due for some good qb play? Dont just settle for (fill in the blank) when talking about your next qb, GO AND GET HIM!!!!!!
Agree 1000%. Only way Orton makes any sense at all is if they intend to get RG3 in the draft. Orton is fine to start for a month or so if RG3 is not ready on opening day but if they are counting on him for anything more then that then it's a disaster IMO.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:56 AM   #922
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Let me clarify, universally (meaning within the key decision makers) there are fewer concerns about Orton than Manning. The biggest advocate for Manning probably has the least say. I'm not sure they're rah rah for either, quite honestly
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:08 PM   #923
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If we sign Orton then I'm going to puke. There's a reason he's on his 3rd team. As much as I'd hate to give up a pick, I'd rather them go get someone who hasn't had a chance ( Hoyer, Flynn) then bring in Orton.
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i wouldn't mind signing orton as a backup
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So what? We would have to trade away everything to get into the top 5 next year just like this year. And going that route you would have a raw, low round QB prospect who isn't ready to play and when Peyton get's the knockout blow for his career somewhere in the first 3 weeks, then what do we have for the rest of the season? Rex Grossman. No thank you.
Agree. If somebody told you, that you had a greater than 50% shot of winning the lottery you would probably pay a high price for that ticket. Drafting a franchise QB is kind of like that. The risk is there, but the upside is worth it. In order to succeed in the playoffs you need a franchise QB. The teams that don’t have one are a revolving door getting into the playoffs every so often then having a few years not being there, with minimal success in the playoffs. In order to have longevity you need that QB. I think they have to make a play for RG3.
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If we sign Orton then I'm going to puke. There's a reason he's on his 3rd team. As much as I'd hate to give up a pick, I'd rather them go get someone who hasn't had a chance ( Hoyer, Flynn) then bring in Orton.
Let me pose this question to you

Manning and trade down to get Tannehill and an additional pick in the 2nd/3rd

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Orton and trade up to get RG3 and lose a 1st/2nd
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Let me pose this question to you

Manning and trade down to get Tannehill and an additional pick in the 2nd/3rd

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Orton and trade up to get RG3 and lose a 1st/2nd
Option 2.....all day.
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orton/rg3. manning is done
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Let me pose this question to you

Manning and trade down to get Tannehill and an additional pick in the 2nd/3rd

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Orton and trade up to get RG3 and lose a 1st/2nd
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Let me pose this question to you

Manning and trade down to get Tannehill and an additional pick in the 2nd/3rd

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Orton and trade up to get RG3 and lose a 1st/2nd
Sounds like in your opinion signing Orton is an indication that the skins will make a serious push for RG3.

Those are really the only 2 workable options to me. Orton is not enough of an immediate upgrade to pair with any sort of developmental QB and if they get Manning spending extra resources to move up for RG3 is highly unlikely.
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