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Sign Peyton Manning 43 32.82%
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:08 AM   #976
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I enjoyed that article. The writer has a little wishful thinking in the idea that Manning won't get signed before Flynn or other free agents. There will be a team that will take a chance on the Manning name\brand.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:46 AM   #977
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:48 AM   #978
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I'm not sure which thread is appropriate for this article, but since Griffin is big part in this article, I thought this one is good spot. I believe McShay made a valid point about not trading up for Griffin -

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“Ultimately, I do think they’re inside that safe zone for where they’re going to be and for the potential of a team wanting to move up to get an elite player,” McShay says. “But also, if you’re sitting there at six, maybe they want to get that elite player. … They did draft very well last year. But even if they don’t get the quarterback, or if they address it in free agency, to me, nailing the draft again this year is going to be huge for not just the short-term, but more importantly, the long-term of this organization. And if they get a good deal to move back, they should do it, or if not, you sit there, you get a Morris Claiborne, who’s a shut-down corner, who can help take their defense to the next level"
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:27 AM   #979
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I live in New England and listen to a lot of talk radio and we have late night sports talk on TV on Sundays. I can tell you the people (beat reporters, ex-players, etc) who cover and comment on the team feel that the team believes in Hoyer to a huge degree. Like they think they're sitting on a major asset, way better than Cassel was. And this isn't just "the coaches say he's good" talk, or a smokescreen, they are talking about a palpable sense they get from everywhere in the organization about Hoyer.

There is talk now that they are considering putting the first round tender on him. If you think about what that means, it means they are thinking it might not be worth risking losing him for "only" a 2nd round pick. And this is a guy who can walk for nothing in a year. So, essentially they are debating whether one year of Hoyer as a back-up is worth more than a 2nd round pick.

Just FWIW.
I think the guy needs to put something on film besides pre season games. If NE does that then good for them. No one is taking that bait.
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:26 PM   #980
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I just talked to a friend of mine who knows a couple people around Redskins park, and he IS saying that if he were a betting man, Kyle Orton will be the starter for the redskins come season start, and that R. Tannehill will be sitting behind him learning the WCO ropes. He didnt know, however, if we planned on trading down, or if we nab him with pick #6, or trade up from the second round to nab him, maybe somewhere in the mid 20's.

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I just talked to a friend of mine who knows a couple people around Redskins park, and he IS saying that if he were a betting man, Kyle Orton will be the starter for the redskins come season start, and that R. Tannehill will be sitting behind him learning the WCO ropes. He didnt know, however, if we planned on trading down, or if we nab him with pick #6, or trade up from the second round to nab him, maybe somewhere in the mid 20's.

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I'd have no problem with that myself.

I'd lean toward the plan being taking BPA at 6, and trading back into the first to take RT.
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My question is: Does anyone think we will try and trade up to get Luck? What would you offer for him?
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I'd have no problem with that myself.

I'd lean toward the plan being taking BPA at 6, and trading back into the first to take RT.
Unless you can get a good price to trade up into the top three, I think this is probably the best way to play it.

I have a bunch of guys ranked ahead of Tannehill who were more accomplished college players, but I'd understand those who prefer what RT does well. His skill set is fairly unique. He doesn't really fit what we currently do, but we could become a Ryan Tannehill offense with very little tweaking of the offense. It would just require drastically different gameplanning with pretty much the same playsheet.

The infrastructure to be a good offense with Tannehill is already in place.
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Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

My offseason plan A: (offense)

Re-Sign Fred Davis (Franchise W/E)

Sign Ben Grubbs, Dwayne Bowe and possibly Eddie Royal

Send #6 pick, 2nd or 3rd rounder, and 2013 1st rounder to St. Louis or Minnesota

Draft RGIII

Use 4th rounder on Chris Rainey (plays slot and replace Banks)

If you can get Jabar Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon Maybe Moss is worth a 4th or 5th rounder. (Wishful thinking.)

Use 2nd 4th on ROT

Our opening day offense would be:

QB RGIII
RB Helu
FB Young
WR Bowe
WR Hank
WR Gaffney
WR Royal
TE Davis
TE Cooley
LT Williams
LG Grubbs
C Lichtensteiger/Montgomery
RG Chester
RT Brown/Smith/Rookie

I can live with that.
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Right now I'd want PM, RGIII, Luck, Flynn all ahead of orton
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Right now I'd want PM, RGIII, Luck, Flynn all ahead of orton
i agree with the exception of peyton manning
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Right now I'd want PM, RGIII, Luck, Flynn all ahead of orton
Would you want them in that order? Cause I'd want luck before all others especially manning at this point.
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Old 02-18-2012, 03:57 PM   #988
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My question is: Does anyone think we will try and trade up to get Luck? What would you offer for him?
I think if we did go for luck (who is the only player I'd trade up for) I'd guess that we'd have to swap 2012 firsts, give them our second, fourth, 2013 first and second. Probably more...
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Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

this has been stated by many before and by myself. all the rumors are ridiculous, the skins have to search and have a open mind on all of the FA's QB's and the ones in the draft. there are many different ways for us to get a QB. IMO we have to sign a FA QB no matter what we do, just in case we cant get the QB we want in the draft. Right now any of the FA QB's that have been talked about, it would better than what we had last year, I would take Orton, Flynn, Manning over Grossman or Beck.

It boils down to who they want, it is way too early for all these rumors about the draft, a lot can happen between now and then. i just wish the colts would release manning so i can stop hearing about him.
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Old 02-18-2012, 04:02 PM   #990
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I would like either PM or RGIII, noone else. I don't want us missing out on a top shelf QB being too carefull.

If we take PM I hope we trade down and do the following...

QB: PM, Tannehill
HB: Helu, Royster, Hightower, James
FB: Young
WR: Hank, Colston, Royal, Broyles, Gaffney, Austin, Paul, Robinson
TE: Davis, Cooley, Paulsen
LT: T.Williams/ Polumbus
LG: Grubbs
C: Lichtensteiger/Montgomery
RG: Chester
RT: M.Adams/ Smith/ Brown
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