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Old 02-29-2012, 04:59 PM   #76
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:03 PM   #77
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:11 PM   #78
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I like how we "never hesitate to spend big in free agency," despite the fact that we've been relatively tame over the last couple of years.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:48 PM   #79
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I like how we "never hesitate to spend big in free agency," despite the fact that we've been relatively tame over the last couple of years.
Is every team leaking info left and right like the Skins? Seems like there's a new rumor every other day.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:44 PM   #80
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I like how we "never hesitate to spend big in free agency," despite the fact that we've been relatively tame over the last couple of years.
We spent as much as any team did last year. It just didn't seem like it because we cleared out a ton of contracts first, and so we weren't spending budget that would have to come from future years.

Responsible spending still lines the pockets of free agents.
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:34 PM   #81
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We spent as much as any team did last year. It just didn't seem like it because we cleared out a ton of contracts first, and so we weren't spending budget that would have to come from future years.

Responsible spending still lines the pockets of free agents.
We spent what we did because we signed several guys to reasonable deals. We weren't in the big money Nnamdi stakes or anything like that. The quote that I responded to implied that we were still doing Haynesworth-type deals.

And the year before we didn't do much at all in FA.
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:56 PM   #82
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Im okay with getting VJax. The best thing we can do for a new Qb is bring in a WR who will make plays.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:46 PM   #83
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We spent what we did because we signed several guys to reasonable deals. We weren't in the big money Nnamdi stakes or anything like that. The quote that I responded to implied that we were still doing Haynesworth-type deals.

And the year before we didn't do much at all in FA.
Reasonable is relative though. When I saw the numbers on the Haynesworth deal, I thought that it was a pretty well structured contract. One year later it looked awful.

Bowen, Cofield, Chester, Brown, and Atogwe all signed pretty huge deals that gave them eight figure practical guarantees. I think that if you look at the contractual details, you can see a definite difference in the way the Redskins write contracts now versus how they did it before. But from 10,000 feet above, it looks like a franchise that loves to give out big free agent contracts giving out free agent contracts to players at the peak of their value, aka buying high.

I think that it's a lot to ask of the national writers to be detail oriented enough to realize that these big contracts are ones the Redskins can get away from a bit easier than the prior contracts which required constant restructuring. Their claims that the Shanahan/Allen duo likes to give out large free agent deals are justified by those large free agent deals.

If those contracts had led to wins in 2011, I think they'd be singing a different tune. Perhaps not, though.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:53 PM   #84
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what do you guys think of Garcon? i dont think he is a number one receiver, that being said i would sign him but not to number 1 money which he is looking for i think. That being said who else is really going to hit the market? i think everyone worth interest is going to get tagged other than vincent jackson and possibly stevie johnson
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what do you guys think of Garcon? i dont think he is a number one receiver, that being said i would sign him but not to number 1 money which he is looking for i think. That being said who else is really going to hit the market? i think everyone worth interest is going to get tagged other than vincent jackson and possibly stevie johnson
I see him as the third name in this Wonderlic question.

1. Please complete the pattern. Alvin Harper, Peerless Price, ________.
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:12 PM   #86
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Brandon Iloyd (for us atleast), roy williams, and yea i could see garcon in that pattern
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So do we pay top dollar for VJax or give a mid level contract to Garcon?
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:23 AM   #88
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So do we pay top dollar for VJax or give a mid level contract to Garcon?
VJax is a beast, but he's 29 and has some baggage, and I don't like Garçon at all. Fool's gold. Similar stats as Gaffney for similar reasons. Played on a bad team with a bad QB who had to throw all the time because they were always behind. Stats are gonna pile up for somebody. Plus, his first name is Pierre
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:14 AM   #89
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I'm wary on getting V-Jax and Colston. Both will want long term deals, yet they are both 29 years old. How much left do they have in the tank?
Also I think that V-Jax's numbers are inflated a bit higher than they should be. He has a tendency to torch terrible pass defenses (313 yds 5tds combined against NE and GB) but then lay an egg in many other games.
Colston I love, but am worried about his lack of starts. He started 7 games last year despite being clearly the best reciever on his team (besides Grahm). Is this an indication of character issues where the coach benches doesn't start him? Probably nothing, but still makes me nervous considering we'd have to pay him top dollar.
Garcon I like alot. He is who I would go for if I were the GM. He is young, runs his routes well, runs after the catch, and won't be paid top dollar. I'd be comfortable with our skill players being Griffin, Garcon, Moss, Hankerson, Davis, Helu, Royster (who quietly dominated this year when given his opportunity...just look at his two starts), Gaffney, and Young as our pass catching FB (also I think Hightower will be back). I doubt Shanny will go to Garcon though. He seems set on a big name guy. His hard push to pay top dollar for that joke Santonio tells me so.
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:34 AM   #90
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I'm wary of all three, V-Jax, Colston, and Garcon. Garcon is injured too much, so is Colston, and V-Jax is almost 30 and has issues with alcohol and getting suspended.
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