DCT: Shanahan Leading Redskins in Right Direction

bertoskins2 · 02-13-2012, 09:13 AM

just win baby

skinsguy · 02-13-2012, 09:18 AM

Shanahan knows how to rebuild a team and to build it so that it becomes a Championship team. He rebuilt Denver...yes he had a major piece already there in John Elway, but still, he built a back to back Super Bowl team in Denver. He's coached in San Fran when they won the Super Bowl in '94. The guy knows championship football. He knows how to find the right pieces. He knows what it takes.

If Mike says it's going to take him the length of his contract to do it the right way, I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think any one of us here is qualified to argue against that point.

freddyg12 · 02-13-2012, 10:30 AM

Pretty nice read, I'm in agreement w/all of it. Sure MS has made some mistakes, the McNabb deal the biggest, but he's also (along w/allen) changed the biz model & culture.

Big year comin up for Shanny for sure, the pressure will be on, that's why he's making some big $

irish · 02-13-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Meh.....the blog has the same old same old stuff. I breezed thru it. Basically the same angst thats been re hashed here all year.

Mike Shanahan does not have my full support right now because he has screwed the pooch in the QB situation since he got here.
He needs to hit a home run this year or I'm calling for his head.
He needs to work with Kyle more also (or replace him).
I dont trust Kyles play calling for squat.

How do you define Shanny hitting a home run?

Alvin Walton · 02-13-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

How do you define Shanny hitting a home run?

By installing a new quarterback that gets us into the playoffs routinely.
I can handle 8-8 or 9-7 next year (learning curve) but if we falter after that because of our QB play then call me anti Shanahan.

TexSkins · 02-13-2012, 11:11 AM

Shanny & Allen have restored my confidence in this franchise. This team was in shambles. They're drafting well and picking up some solid Free Agents. As long as Danny stays patient the SKins will be back in the playoffs soon.

skinsguy · 02-13-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

By installing a new quarterback that gets us into the playoffs routinely.
I can handle 8-8 or 9-7 next year (learning curve) but if we falter after that because of our QB play then call me anti Shanahan.

If the best way to go is RGIII, then I'm all for it. However, I don't know if giving up draft picks is the best way to go...and really leaning toward that answer being no. If we pick him, and Griffin goes the way of Ryan Leaf, then it's not just the QB position that has suffered, it's the over positions that didn't get a draft pick that would have if the 'skins had either maintained #6 or traded down. But like I said earlier, it really depends upon Peyton Manning's arm. I don't think Redskins fans are patient enough to live through Kyle Orton as a starter.

Paintrain · 02-13-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Meh.....the blog has the same old same old stuff. I breezed thru it. Basically the same angst thats been re hashed here all year.

Mike Shanahan does not have my full support right now because he has screwed the pooch in the QB situation since he got here.
He needs to hit a home run this year or I'm calling for his head.
He needs to work with Kyle more also (or replace him).
I dont trust Kyles play calling for squat.

What specifically are you looking for from Kyle to win you over? I'll couch that by saying we all need to see more scoring production and a higher conversion ratio in the red zone.

But with Kyle's detractors, I often wonder what it is that you perceive is missing purely from a coaching standpoint.

irish · 02-13-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

What specifically are you looking for from Kyle to win you over? I'll couch that by saying we all need to see more scoring production and a higher conversion ratio in the red zone.

But with Kyle's detractors, I often wonder what it is that you perceive is missing purely from a coaching standpoint.

Kyle cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

REDSKINS4ever · 02-13-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

If the best way to go is RGIII, then I'm all for it. However, I don't know if giving up draft picks is the best way to go...and really leaning toward that answer being no. If we pick him, and Griffin goes the way of Ryan Leaf, then it's not just the QB position that has suffered, it's the over positions that didn't get a draft pick that would have if the 'skins had either maintained #6 or traded down. But like I said earlier, it really depends upon Peyton Manning's arm. I don't think Redskins fans are patient enough to live through Kyle Orton as a starter.

When dealing with QBs, it's always better to draft your own. Sometimes giving up draft choices in order to attain the QB you need is always the best way to go. At the 2004 draft, the NYG gave the San Diego Chargers a boat load of draft choices in order to land Eli Manning. Two Super Bowl championships later, I'd say that deal worked out pretty well for the Giants.

If the Redskins want to be successful, then they have to do what's best for the organization. I doubt if RG3 will be a bust. He'll undergo hardship in the NFL as a rookie, but he'll be fine once the game slows down for him.

As far as Kyle Orton, he's certainly better than Grossman and Beck. But this organization needs a young QB, not another free agent signed.

Alvin Walton · 02-13-2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What specifically are you looking for from Kyle to win you over? I'll couch that by saying we all need to see more scoring production and a higher conversion ratio in the red zone.

But with Kyle's detractors, I often wonder what it is that you perceive is missing purely from a coaching standpoint.

Non bizarre play calling with people way out of position for starters.
His age makes me nervous also.
Notice that the Texans finally make the playoffs after he leaves.
I also dont like the father and son thing.
Makes it harder for Mike to fire him if hes blowing it.
His belief in Grossman was total fail.

Ruhskins · 02-13-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

When dealing with QBs, it's always better to draft your own. Sometimes giving up draft choices in order to attain the QB you need is always the best way to go. At the 2004 draft, the NYG gave the San Diego Chargers a boat load of draft choices in order to land Eli Manning. Two Super Bowl championships later, I'd say that deal worked out pretty well for the Giants.

If the Redskins want to be successful, then they have to do what's best for the organization. I doubt if RG3 will be a bust. He'll undergo hardship in the NFL as a rookie, but he'll be fine once the game slows down for him.

As far as Kyle Orton, he's certainly better than Grossman and Beck. But this organization needs a young QB, not another free agent signed.

The Redskins will need to sign a viable FA starter, otherwise they'll lose some leverage in bargaining a trade to move up in the draft. BA can't go to the negotiating table without this, otherwise we'd get screwed in a trade in a big way.

Ruhskins · 02-13-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Non bizarre play calling with people way out of position for starters.
His age makes me nervous also.
Notice that the Texans finally make the playoffs after he leaves.
I also dont like the father and son thing.
Makes it harder for Mike to fire him if hes blowing it.
His belief in Grossman was total fail.

I think this had more to do with the Texans finally getting a defense to go along with their top notch offense.

TexSkins · 02-13-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think this had more to do with the Texans finally getting a defense to go along with their top notch offense.

Yep, and Peyton sitting on the sidelines didn't hurt either

Paintrain · 02-13-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Kyle cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Very specific, well done.

02-13-2012, 09:13 AM	#16
bertoskins2 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 260	Re: DCT: Shanahan Leading Redskins in Right Direction just win baby

02-13-2012, 09:18 AM	#17
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 5,998	Re: DCT: Shanahan Leading Redskins in Right Direction Shanahan knows how to rebuild a team and to build it so that it becomes a Championship team. He rebuilt Denver...yes he had a major piece already there in John Elway, but still, he built a back to back Super Bowl team in Denver. He's coached in San Fran when they won the Super Bowl in '94. The guy knows championship football. He knows how to find the right pieces. He knows what it takes. If Mike says it's going to take him the length of his contract to do it the right way, I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think any one of us here is qualified to argue against that point. __________________ Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.

02-13-2012, 10:30 AM	#18
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: DCT: Shanahan Leading Redskins in Right Direction Pretty nice read, I'm in agreement w/all of it. Sure MS has made some mistakes, the McNabb deal the biggest, but he's also (along w/allen) changed the biz model & culture. Big year comin up for Shanny for sure, the pressure will be on, that's why he's making some big $

02-13-2012, 11:11 AM	#21
TexSkins Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pipe Creek, Texas Posts: 48	Re: DCT: Shanahan Leading Redskins in Right Direction Shanny & Allen have restored my confidence in this franchise. This team was in shambles. They're drafting well and picking up some solid Free Agents. As long as Danny stays patient the SKins will be back in the playoffs soon.

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