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02-18-2012, 03:03 AM
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| The Starter  Join Date: Feb 2008
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks Quote:
Imo a bad franchise cannot produce a 'franchise' QB, I don't care how good the prospect. There are certain elements that need to be in place from an organizational stand point to support the development and success of a young QB into a 'franchise' QB i.e. personnel (LT, RB, OL, WR, defense) coaching (someone that knows QBs and knows how to install an NFL passing game) front office (someone that has a clear vision and plan towards the future). Its why the same QB can look like terrible with one team yet look like a HOFer with another team. I think its also important that to sometimes look at the individual teams that make up the group when it comes to QB success. The prevailing logic based on the stats is that the higher you draft a QB the better the odds of success. But if you look at the good franchises and the team with bona fide or even perceived QB 'guru' they tend to have success with their QBs regardless of how or where they acquire them and most were acquired outside the top 10 picks in the 1st round. I'm doing the list below from memory: Walsh never drafted a QB in the 1st round Holmgren: has produced more starting caliber QBs then most franchises and he's never drafted a QB in the 1st round Bellichick IIRC no 1st round QB, produced a starting QB from a 7th round pick Andy Reid: has drafted the highest but also produced Kolb a 2nd rounder into a starter and turned Vick into a top 10 passer Sean Peyton: Tony Romo UDFA and Drew Brees via FA McCarthy: late 1st round and now Matt Flynn Shananhan: has only drafted 1 Cutler at 11 (IIRC) and produced pro-bowlers with 3rd round Greise and FA Plummer
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02-18-2012, 03:59 PM
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| The Starter  Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 24
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks I'm sorry but I don't buy all of this "let's look at the past" crap. It doesn't matter, and it's straight up irrelevant. Their isn't some sort of Redskins god that dictates whether or not we will successfully draft a franchise QB or that Mike Shanahan gets a pass because no other regime was able to draft a franchise QB.
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02-18-2012, 04:34 PM
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| Gamebreaker  Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26
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02-18-2012, 05:41 PM
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks Not that I like McShay, but heres some draft talk for you all to feed on for the next 5 minutes until you ask another peyton or rg3 question.. McShay: Redskins have options in NFL draft - The Insider - The Washington Post
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02-18-2012, 06:06 PM
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| The Starter  Join Date: Oct 2004
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks No success. Then we're "due." |
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02-18-2012, 09:48 PM
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks we have some luck when we draft players in texas |
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02-18-2012, 10:22 PM
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| Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks Quote:
__________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker | |
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02-18-2012, 10:28 PM
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| Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks we had that damn game, u know I really felt we were going to the SB that year
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02-19-2012, 08:51 AM
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks I guess when the free agencey period starts this may determine what direction we will be going if we sign someone like Orton or Flynn. I just don't know if the Redskins will have enough ammo to move up to the 2nd pick with the Rams. I think our biggest threat to draft RGIII is the Browns. How much should we give up to ensure we get RGIII or just let the chips fall and see if he is still their when we pick at #6. I like RGIII he seems to be a great kid with freakish athletic talent but will that make him a franchise quarterback or even a middle of the pack QB like Jason Campbell. I still think we should have kept Jason Shannahans 1 season instead of trading for McNasty. Oh well I will look back at this thread and read what has been posted to see how it all unfolds in the coming months. Lets hope and pray we find a QB who can lead this team for the next 5-8 years.
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02-19-2012, 12:03 PM
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks Quote:
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02-19-2012, 01:06 PM
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| What will Shanny do this offseason?  Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks Our biggest issue IMO is that we haven't had the continuity of a coaching staff to create a successfull QB. 7 head coaches in 12 years. I think this group the MS/BA group will put it togther.
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02-19-2012, 01:19 PM
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| Camp Scrub  Join Date: Jan 2012
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks The shanny's have no choice but to draft a qb come april. If next season is anything like the last two and we still have somebody else's reject under center I can't see them coming back for a 4th year. Unless of course that is they were "grooming" a rookie qb all season long. Skins fans are dying for a franchise quarterback in dc. It's been to long and to much trial and error, lets get it right this time and bring back the glory days to dc. HTTR |
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02-19-2012, 01:24 PM
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks Quote:
Wanna swap screen names? haha (No really do ya)
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02-19-2012, 04:10 PM
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| The Starter  Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York
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| Re: Redskins Have Not Had Success On Drafting Quarterbacks Mike Shanahan has been working with great QBs his entire career. I'm sure he'll get it right this off season mainly because he has to. |
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