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Old 02-21-2012, 01:51 PM   #196
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Yes. simply put. Compared to RGIII, Luck is more of a pocket passer I think. I know you'll throw out the yrds he had in college but I'd still say he tends to stay in the pocket more and go through his progressions more so then RGIII.

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In most of his games he had anywhere from 1-3 run attempts.

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Robert had anywhere from 6 to 26 run attempts per game.

How many offensive plays per game is that per team?

Running plays?

Passing plays?


What was the percentage of Luck running based on number of plays compared to that of RGIII?


I think you need to look more into the numbers than just that.
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The same was said about Locker and the Panthers took Newton.
Incorrect.
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How many offensive plays per game is that per team?

Running plays?

Passing plays?


What was the percentage of Luck running based on number of plays compared to that of RGIII?


I think you need to look more into the numbers than just that.
All I'm looking at is Luck's runs per game vs. RGIII's runs per game. tell me Luck is not more of a pocket passer.
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Incorrect.
Maybe I'm coming from a totally different dimension but I could have sworn at this time last year all the way leading up to the draft most Mock drafts had Locker going 1st. Even Luck going 2nd but Luck chose to stay in college. It wasn't until after the Combine that Newton started making headway. I think he pushed himself with the interview with Gruden.
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i thought gabbert was the top rated cube last year
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i thought gabbert was the top rated cube last year
But Locker was the top triangle and Newton was the top sphere.
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:18 PM   #202
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To my eye Luck, Griffin and Tannehill are outstanding athletes for the QB position with very similar physical traits that separate them from the other QBs in this class. (excpet for Wilson but he has a different problem)

They all possess a skill that I think is critical when I look at QBs: playmaking, the ability to turn a negative play into a positive and in this regard all 3 are above average playmakers.
All three can throw very well on the run/move (which is a critically important trait that some elite QBs possess Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Mike Vick, Ben Rothlisberger etc).
Luck, Griffin and Tannehill can can all extend plays with his legs by evading pressure and can also gain chunks of yards that extend drives with his legs.
Griffin's speed makes him the most dynamic but Tannehill is no slouch either having been a good WR and Luck is also an above average athlete too.

They all throw the ball well.
Griff has the best deep ball and Luck is the most consistent.
I think Tannehill has the best arm talent of the trio and can throw with more velocity then both Luck/Griffin.
I think they're about the same level in throwing motion.
I think Tannehill has a quicker release and a cleaner throwing motion then the other 2 but he sometimes throws from a 3/4 to almost side arm delivery which makes his throwing motion the least consistent.
(Or I think Tannehill has the best throwing motion when he's doing it right but he's not always doing it right.)

However their is a clear distinction or separation between Luck/Griffin and Tannehill.
Where Tannehill is raw Luck/Griffin are both high efficiency QBs that exhibit high level command of their respective team's passing offense.(But I would be remiss not to mention that both also have more offensive talent then Tannehill)
But imo the attributes that prevent Tannehill from being on the same tier as Luck/Griffin (i.e efficiency and command) are attainable through experience and coaching.
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the formula for spheres is too complex for me to wrap my head around. a squared-headed emcee couldn't parallel me with a rhombus
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Maybe I'm coming from a totally different dimension but I could have sworn at this time last year all the way leading up to the draft most Mock drafts had Locker going 1st. Even Luck going 2nd but Luck chose to stay in college. It wasn't until after the Combine that Newton started making headway. I think he pushed himself with the interview with Gruden.
That was two years ago. Some people thought he would have gone ahead of Bradford in 2010. Last year it was actually considered a bit of a reach when Tennessee took him 8th.
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I think a guy like Tannehill will be this years Locker, taken around 10 - 15 and will play in his rookie season.
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RGIII is getting so much hype and it's all in regards to his mobility. I'm betting the coaching staff there will want to pick him up because he will (as everyone else believes) buy time with his legs or get the first down himself. I mention this because it helps while the rest of the players are still learning the offense, ie; WR routes, OL blocking schemes.
Dont forget his down field accuracy.
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Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Dolphins have an odd QB situation.

The owner/owners wants Peyton Manning

The coach probably wants Matt Flynn

The OC probably wants Ryan Tannehill

Oh well, nice to have options.
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The Sherman wants Tannehill rumors remind me a lot of the Pete Carroll is only going to draft USC players rumors.
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I think Tannehill ends up with the Redskins, Seahawks, or Chiefs
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:02 PM   #210
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Dont forget his down field accuracy.
I'm pretty sure he has excellent down field accuracy. They even call it uncanny down field accuracy. Which I know is what we need. I could have sworn I saw something and I mentioned that his mid level accuracy was an issue and got called out on it.
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