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Old 02-21-2012, 03:43 PM   #211
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RGIII is getting so much hype and it's all in regards to his mobility. I'm betting the coaching staff there will want to pick him up because he will (as everyone else believes) buy time with his legs or get the first down himself. I mention this because it helps while the rest of the players are still learning the offense, ie; WR routes, OL blocking schemes.
Dont forget his down field accuracy.
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Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Dolphins have an odd QB situation.

The owner/owners wants Peyton Manning

The coach probably wants Matt Flynn

The OC probably wants Ryan Tannehill

Oh well, nice to have options.
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The Sherman wants Tannehill rumors remind me a lot of the Pete Carroll is only going to draft USC players rumors.
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I think Tannehill ends up with the Redskins, Seahawks, or Chiefs
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Dont forget his down field accuracy.
I'm pretty sure he has excellent down field accuracy. They even call it uncanny down field accuracy. Which I know is what we need. I could have sworn I saw something and I mentioned that his mid level accuracy was an issue and got called out on it.
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How many offensive plays per game is that per team?

Running plays?

Passing plays?


What was the percentage of Luck running based on number of plays compared to that of RGIII?


I think you need to look more into the numbers than just that.
I didn't get total plays per game but here's the other stats

Luck:
Run ATT- 43
Pass ATT- 261

RGIII:
Run ATT- 161
Pass ATT- 369

It's very obvious RGIII probably had more plays per game or... Luck had a really good run game and didn't need to pass as much or run himself for the yrds.
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I think Tannehill ends up with the Redskins, Seahawks, or Chiefs
who do you think we end up with smoot if we dont get PM, Hoyer, or Taneehill?
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What's your wager? If the Colts take RGIII I guarantee Andrew Luck is a Washington Redskin.
That's a no brainer.
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To my eye Luck, Griffin and Tannehill are outstanding athletes for the QB position with very similar physical traits that separate them from the other QBs in this class. (excpet for Wilson but he has a different problem)

They all possess a skill that I think is critical when I look at QBs: playmaking, the ability to turn a negative play into a positive and in this regard all 3 are above average playmakers.
All three can throw very well on the run/move (which is a critically important trait that some elite QBs possess Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Mike Vick, Ben Rothlisberger etc).
Luck, Griffin and Tannehill can can all extend plays with his legs by evading pressure and can also gain chunks of yards that extend drives with his legs.
Griffin's speed makes him the most dynamic but Tannehill is no slouch either having been a good WR and Luck is also an above average athlete too.

They all throw the ball well.
Griff has the best deep ball and Luck is the most consistent.
I think Tannehill has the best arm talent of the trio and can throw with more velocity then both Luck/Griffin.
I think they're about the same level in throwing motion.
I think Tannehill has a quicker release and a cleaner throwing motion then the other 2 but he sometimes throws from a 3/4 to almost side arm delivery which makes his throwing motion the least consistent.
(Or I think Tannehill has the best throwing motion when he's doing it right but he's not always doing it right.)

However their is a clear distinction or separation between Luck/Griffin and Tannehill.
Where Tannehill is raw Luck/Griffin are both high efficiency QBs that exhibit high level command of their respective team's passing offense.(But I would be remiss not to mention that both also have more offensive talent then Tannehill)
But imo the attributes that prevent Tannehill from being on the same tier as Luck/Griffin (i.e efficiency and command) are attainable through experience and coaching.
I tend to agree with you on most of your points. One thing that is key to success in the NFL is to be able to extend plays. They can all do it, though IMO Tannehill is not quite at the level of the other two in pocket awareness. They can all make plays with their legs, as needed.

I feel that Tannehill is not nearly as accurate with the deep ball as the other two. Also, his inconsistent technique causes him to miss more sideline passes than he should. He's deadly accurate throwing between the hash marks but that sidearm stuff has got to go. He has a very strong arm.

I see much of the same skill set in Tannehill as I see in RGIII. Like you, I think his game just needs to be refined.

My point is that I would have no problem with the Skins signing a mid-level, interim QB in FA and taking Tannehill with the 6th pick, if that's what it comes to. If there is no chance for RGIII and the Skins decide to go with Tannehill, I just don't want to see them trade down and miss out on their guy. Let Mel Kiper and others spout off all they want about the Skins "reaching" and whatever other know-it-all stuff they want to say. Just don't miss.
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The same was said about Locker and the Panthers took Newton.
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who do you think we end up with smoot if we dont get PM, Hoyer, or Taneehill?
Mark Sanchez!!!!

Seriously though, not sure. Foles?

I think we're going to be part of the Manning discussion but won't go out of our way for him

I think/know we like Tannehill but not sure if enough to take him at #6, and not sure how low can we go and take him

I realize no one is really talking about Hoyer but I do believe we're going to make a serious offer for him. Will be it be our 1st for Hoyer and one of their 1sts? Probably not. Our 2nd straight up for Hoyer? Maybe. Our 3rd and a player for Hoyer? That's sort of what I'm thinking
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The Sherman wants Tannehill rumors remind me a lot of the Pete Carroll is only going to draft USC players rumors.
Well he's going to be a winner which means he's going to put up terrible numbers and the defense is going to pick up all the slack on their way to wins over teams like the Redskins.
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