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Old 02-24-2012, 10:37 AM   #301
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1- no. Cosell could have said nothing but a glorified endorsement, I was commenting on the quoted part that was posted here. He seemed to have a very negative view of Flynn based off of what he quoted and what he quoted which perhaps I misunderstood seemed to be a break down of Flynn from when he was coming out of college and the poster here compared him to McCoy. Personally I think Flynn is 10X better then McCoy.
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2012 NFL Free Agents: Predicting the Worst Contract at Every Position | Bleacher Report
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Basically they are commenting on the fact that these players will probably get big contracts but will they live up to them. or are they worth it.
Predicting the Worst Contracts as a Headline was probably a give away that the writer doesn't think they're worth it





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I never said glowing endorsement though I said a decent fair comment. I'm just not a fan of McCoy I guess, but the comparison to Kolb is more accurate I believe. Now I really don't like Kolb because I really think he sucks and had proven it in the 16 games with the Eagles over the yrs he was with them. Flynn has only had 2 games, 1 half decent, and 1 really good game against a really good defense. It's that really good game to me that says a lot. He can play in the NFL, he can make all the throws, he has pocket presence, he can manage a game. The flip side is can he do it for 16 games? and no one has the answer for that but no one can say that about RGIII, or Tannehill, or Luck, or Weeden. The others have not even shown they can manage 1 game in the NFL let alone 16.
So you'd like to take a chance on a guy who believe is accurately compared to Kevin Kolb...who you don't like and think sucks?
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I would rather trade to 3, we can't top the browns if they want to go to 2, but if RGIII is sitting at 3, I would pull the trigger on a multi-pick deal to get ahead of them at 4.
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Look folks. "IF" the Browns are infatuated as some say with RGIII and they really want him... they are going to get him. Right now they are in talks with the Rams, but lets say the Rams are like "no, we want to draft a OL to protect Bradford", fine then the Browns are going to start talking to the Vikings because they are not going to let the Skins jump ahead of them and take RGIII.

The Browns have the most ammo, the Browns will trade with whoever in order to get RGIII (if they want him) in order to keep us from getting him instead of them. I'm sure in the perfect world they too would love for him to fall to their draft pick, but he won't and they too are worried we will step up and make a play with the Rams so you might as well figure they will make a better offer to the Rams.

I just don't see RGIII falling to #3 or beyond. If the Rams don't want him then they are going to go out and get the best deal they can get whether it's with the Browns, Skins, or Dolphins or any other team for that matter. The Browns just have the most ammo right now.

My terrible Mock:
1- Colts-Luck
2- Browns- RGIII
3- Vikes- Blackmon
4- Bucks- Claiborne
5- Rams- Kalil
6- Skins- Weeden

I know this is not everyone idea and not mine either but I believe if we don't take him at #6 and trade back which is what I want ... I'm affraid Miami will take him. I think they are interested in Weeden also.
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Predicting the Worst Contracts as a Headline was probably a give away that the writer doesn't think they're worth it







So you'd like to take a chance on a guy who believe is accurately compared to Kevin Kolb...who you don't like and think sucks?
My comparison of Kolb is not so much his skills (which I think suck) but rather his situation (over the comparison of him and McCoy). I guess both arguements could be correct and I'll apologize. His skills they are comparing to McCoy, but I think Flynn looked better, In the article I'm providing they are comparing him to Kolb because they both are/were back up QB's and did and most likely will get paid big bucks and the question is are they worth it? I saw enough of Kolb to say no. Flynn on the other hand is a question and in my little dream world I had us simply out bidding the other teams who would want him but I didn't figure on a 56 mill over 5 yr deal.
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Weeden is not going #6. C'mon now.
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OK..........but how bout' Wheaton?
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The only one I would see going #6 would be Tannehill, and I think even that is a stretch.
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Look folks. "IF" the Browns are infatuated as some say with RGIII and they really want him... they are going to get him. Right now they are in talks with the Rams, but lets say the Rams are like "no, we want to draft a OL to protect Bradford", fine then the Browns are going to start talking to the Vikings because they are not going to let the Skins jump ahead of them and take RGIII.

The Browns have the most ammo, the Browns will trade with whoever in order to get RGIII (if they want him) in order to keep us from getting him instead of them. I'm sure in the perfect world they too would love for him to fall to their draft pick, but he won't and they too are worried we will step up and make a play with the Rams so you might as well figure they will make a better offer to the Rams.

I just don't see RGIII falling to #3 or beyond. If the Rams don't want him then they are going to go out and get the best deal they can get whether it's with the Browns, Skins, or Dolphins or any other team for that matter. The Browns just have the most ammo right now.

My terrible Mock:
1- Colts-Luck
2- Browns- RGIII
3- Vikes- Blackmon
4- Bucks- Claiborne
5- Rams- Kalil
6- Skins- Weeden

I know this is not everyone idea and not mine either but I believe if we don't take him at #6 and trade back which is what I want ... I'm affraid Miami will take him. I think they are interested in Weeden also.
there is no way the skins draft Weeden there.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:43 AM   #309
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My terrible Mock:
1- Colts-Luck
2- Browns- RGIII
3- Vikes- Blackmon
4- Bucks- Claiborne
5- Rams- Kalil
6- Skins- Weeden

I know this is not everyone idea and not mine either but I believe if we don't take him at #6 and trade back which is what I want ... I'm affraid Miami will take him. I think they are interested in Weeden also.
Weeden will be fortunate to be picked at 26, no way he's going at #6. Would the Rams trade down twice, how are they getting to 5? Vikes will take Khalil over Blackmon, LT is a bigger need for them than WR. If we are at 6 with all of those players off the board, I could see (in a major reach) Tannehill at this spot or a trade down. We really don't need to stockpile picks again this year, not with 10 2011 draftees expected on the 2012 roster.
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My terrible Mock:
1- Colts-Luck
2- Browns- RGIII
3- Vikes- Blackmon
4- Bucks- Claiborne
5- Rams- Kalil
6- Skins- Weeden

Don't quit your day job because you suck at mock drafting.

1) How would the Rams end up at #5 if they traded with the Browns at #4?

2) Kalil not in the top 4?....lol

3) Weeden at #6? Are you friends with Fred Davis and Trent Williams by chance? Smoke buddies perhaps?


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Does anyone have the chart of the value of each draft pick for trading? I assume it's changed since the new CBA and made the top 5 draft choices a lot more valuable.
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I could see Kalil and another LT being taken in the top 5.

This could end up being one of those drafts like a couple of years ago. It was the year we drafted Rak, were we saw a couple of teams reach for Oline because there was a run on the top OL guys. There is really good talent at the G and T posisitons this year.
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The only one I would see going #6 would be Tannehill, and I think even that is a stretch.
How about

1. Colts-Luck
2. Rams-Kalil
3. Dolphins (trade with Vikings)-RG3
4. Browns-Blackmon
5. Bucs-Richardson
6. Vikings (trade with Redskins)-Claiborne
7. Jaguars-Ingram
8. Redskins-Tannehill
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How about

1. Colts-Luck
2. Rams-Kalil
3. Dolphins (trade with Vikings)-RG3
4. Browns-Blackmon
5. Bucs-Richardson
6. Vikings (trade with Redskins)-Claiborne
7. Jaguars-Ingram
8. Redskins-Tannehill
Not my 1st choice but not bad as long as we have also signed Manning.
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How about

1. Colts-Luck
2. Rams-Kalil
3. Dolphins (trade with Vikings)-RG3
4. Browns-Blackmon
5. Bucs-Richardson
6. Vikings (trade with Redskins)-Claiborne
7. Jaguars-Ingram
8. Redskins-Tannehill
I would be just fine with that I believe.
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