Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Redskins Locker Room


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-20-2012, 05:49 PM   #106
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 25
Posts: 11,899
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtbag59 View Post
Theres obviously no such thing as a sure thing in the draft. However what would we really giving up? We have two playoff appearences and one playoff victory in the last decade and have picked in the top 15 more times then I care to count. Look at all the teams picking in the bottom of the first round. Almost all of those teams have QB's that they can rely on to win games.



I'll give up 3 potential starters for a game changing QB any day of the week. Especially one with off the chart intangibles and physical ability.



And keep in mind another top 10 draft pick type year means that theres a good chance Shanahan could be fired which means a ton of roster turnover (think of the Broncos roster after Shanahan left). So in the end a lot of this building through the draft would end up being an exercise in futility.



We keep ordering new parts for the same broken down car. It's time to get a new car.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  

Advertisements
Old 02-20-2012, 06:42 PM   #107
Registered User
 
Pigskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 537
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Id get Matt Flynn or PM over weeded, age is a huge factor, I want a long term solution, injuries rack up as you get higher in age
Pigskins is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 06:47 PM   #108
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 28
Posts: 14,420
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Thanks. I personally love the idea of this franchise being held back if they miss after trading up for RGIII. Like we were going anywhere to begin with. Besides unless RGIII gets hurt again he won't bust. In the words of one Omar Little "even if I miss I can't miss."

I want to point this out again. When Vick was playing in Atlanta under Mora Jr their offense was designed around zone stretch plays that featured Vick rolling out off the handoff.

The fear Vick created by rolling out opened running lanes wide open for the likes of Warrick Dunn, TJ Duckett, and Jarius Norwood. The Falcons finished first in rushing 3 years in a row from 2004 to 2007 and averaged no less then 4.8 ypc in those three years (5.1, 4.8, 5.5 respectively).

Now imagine that same type of threat in RGIII running Shanahan's offense off the bootleg, and unlike a young Michael Vick he's an accurate passer. So teams not only have to respect his legs but his arm as well.

My point is, worst case scenario, if RGIII fails as a passer we will still have an explosive offense. And even though the worst case scenario likely means we would probably never win a Super Bowl we would at least be winning games again.

One more thing to keep in mind. The top QB's in this league have an uncanny ability to improvise on the fly, weather it's in the middle of a play or before the snap (Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Brees, Vick). This is something that RGIII possess in spades.
__________________
"Hey baby, wake up from your a sleep." -Zlad

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG

Last edited by Dirtbag59; 02-20-2012 at 06:58 PM.
Dirtbag59 is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 06:56 PM   #109
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 25
Posts: 11,899
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigskins View Post
Id get Matt Flynn or PM over weeded, age is a huge factor, I want a long term solution, injuries rack up as you get higher in age
Wheeden?, weeded? Come on people if you really want him at least spell his name right.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 06:58 PM   #110
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 25
Posts: 11,899
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Wait Dirtbag, so we shouldn't draft 5 all-pro offensive lineman, 2 1,000 yard receivers, a 1,000 yard rusher, and a 1,000 yard tight end before drafting a qb in the ALWAYS better class of next year?
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:02 PM   #111
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 28
Posts: 14,420
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
Wait Dirtbag, so we shouldn't draft 5 all-pro offensive lineman, 2 1,000 yard receivers, a 1,000 yard rusher, and a 1,000 yard tight end before drafting a qb in the ALWAYS better class of next year?
Wait, I'm sorry I don't know what I was thinking. The nerve to believe that a QB with game breaking ability would help this team win games.
__________________
"Hey baby, wake up from your a sleep." -Zlad

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:04 PM   #112
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 25
Posts: 11,899
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtbag59 View Post
Wait, I'm sorry I don't know what I was thinking. The nerve to believe that a QB with game breaking ability would help this team win games.
The audacity. Doctors. PSSSSH. Never liked them.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:09 PM   #113
Registered User
 
Pigskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 537
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Sorry iPhone auto correct messes up lol
Pigskins is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:28 PM   #114
Special Teams
 
BuckSkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Eastern Ohio
Age: 45
Posts: 232
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Wait Dirtbag, so we shouldn't draft 5 all-pro offensive lineman, 2 1,000 yard receivers, a 1,000 yard rusher, and a 1,000 yard tight end before drafting a qb in the ALWAYS better class of next year?
Quote:
Wait, I'm sorry I don't know what I was thinking. The nerve to believe that a QB with game breaking ability would help this team win games.
Hold on guys, don't pull from the station before I hop on the bandwagon!
__________________
"Any Nation willing to give up a little freedom, to gain a little security, will deserve neither, and lose both."
-Benjamin Franklin
BuckSkin is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:32 PM   #115
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 28
Posts: 14,420
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckSkin View Post
Hold on guys, don't pull from the station before I hop on the bandwagon!
Actually no we're no longer on the RGIII bandwagon. We have determined that a tackle, a linebacker, and a 2nd round QB will have a bigger impact on this teams future then a blue chip QB.
__________________
"Hey baby, wake up from your a sleep." -Zlad

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #116
Quietly Dominating the East
 
Hog1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 8,983
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

We should do what makes sense.....
And not compromise the position of the team or the future of same for any reason.
BUILD the team.
Regardless of what the current popular thought on the boards may be "They" have a plan. Be it perfect or not, stick to it......
HTTR..
__________________
Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios
thankyou Joe.......
Win! Always win!
By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds...
by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice...
but always win--Edward Teach
Hog1 is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:34 PM   #117
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfan69 View Post
A lot of fans act like the guy is 38 years old. He can play until his late 30's. He could easily have a 8-10 year career if he's good enough. Everyone needs to remember that Weeden isn't a running back. If the front office thinks he's good enough then being 29 shouldn't really matter. I'd have no problem taking him in the 2nd round.
Yea people act like he'll come into the league with a walker or cane. What we need to be concerned with is can they make the throws, lead the WR, make decent decisions, limit the turn overs, and not cost us two yrs worth of top draft picks.
SBXVII is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:38 PM   #118
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by diehard View Post
Why worry about RG3 getting hurt? I mean, you gotta have other guys who can step in and play at every position.
Well if we draft him and he gets hurt in the first few games because he's not big enoughor solid enough to take a hit from a safety then he's a worthless pick. How about simply drafting a QB with the size of Big Ben.
SBXVII is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:43 PM   #119
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 80,426
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by SBXVII View Post
Well if we draft him and he gets hurt in the first few games because he's not big enoughor solid enough to take a hit from a safety then he's a worthless pick. How about simply drafting a QB with the size of Big Ben.
He's 6-2, 220

I wouldn't worry about him not being sturdy enough
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline  
Old 02-20-2012, 07:43 PM   #120
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtbag59 View Post
Actually no we're no longer on the RGIII bandwagon. We have determined that a tackle, a linebacker, and a 2nd round QB will have a bigger impact on this teams future then a blue chip QB.
I don't view him as a blue chip QB, he's more of a top flight QB with some issues that need to be worked out. Tannehill, Cousins, Weeden etc. are blue collar QB's.
SBXVII is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.33890 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25