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Old 02-27-2012, 02:49 PM   #346
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OK lets say we give this years 1,2,3 and next years first.
Does the Warpath meltdown as a whole or rejoice?
If we get him for that low a price...rejoyce. But it's going to be more than that. I'd guess its more than that though. My biggest concern is that Shanny will not do well the next 2-3 years because our team sucks as a whole, and there are not that many good FA options and we will not have many draft picks coming up. After a couple more bad years I say he gets fired. I think he screwed up in his first year badly with the McNabb trade (and I'd argue the Williams pick...but I won't), which I believe will hurt us more than most people realize. But I think he should be given a second chance to build a franchise because I think he is a good x's and o's coach and he is a risk taker (sometimes you get burned with risks). If he makes this move, and is dedicated to rebuilding the team I want him to stick around.

How long untill the giants turned things around? Some could argue that in Manning's third year they turned it around because they made the playoffs, but I'd say it wasn't untill his 4th considering they made the playoffs at 8-8 and had more points scored on them then they scored.

Shanny's protege Kubiyak also had quite a bit of time to start winning. And now look at his team, the texans are ballin. Sometimes it takes ALOT of time to turn things around, and one mistake (given it was a big one) is understandable.

I think he did a good job at improving our team last year, and I want to see him continue down this path. The fact of the matter is our team sucks. And even our highly paid players that Shanny inherited are getting old/broken down. Hall, Moss, Fletcher, Cooley

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Old 02-27-2012, 02:52 PM   #347
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What if the 'skins sign RGIII and he gets hurt in preseason?
Then were screwed but so are 31 other teams if their starter gets hurt in preseason.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:01 PM   #348
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Sorry I meant Manning and one of these guys...and then next year (ode to Dirtbag) we get a Barkley, Jones, Wilson, etc?
I think were about out of "next years" to push this QB issue off to. This will be the 3rd straight year we did that. And if Manning actually gives us a decent season we will have no shot at Barkley. We think trading up from #6 is expensive...when we are picking in the teens or 20's it will be impossible.

It's not Shanny/Allens fault since they more or less just got here, but i have been a Redskins fan for 35+ years and they have not had a franchise QB for about 30 of them. I am done with it. Manning being an all-timer clouds the water...but I always get back to thinking that this horrible QB cycle needs to end and it needs to end for longer then 2 or 3 years.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:02 PM   #349
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Maybe the best argument I've heard to trade up for RG3 is that: if we don't the Eagles might.
or the Cowboys...but you didn't hear that from me (you heard it from Matty, are we clear?)
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:14 PM   #350
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or the Cowboys...but you didn't hear that from me (you heard it from Matty, are we clear?)
Clear as day. Smootsmack told me that the Cowboys are trading up for RGIII and the Redskins are signing Julius Pepers.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:16 PM   #351
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It seems your more enamored with this whole combine talk than those that want us to trade up for him lol. His awesome showing comes from him dispelling any doubts about his physical ability and build. Along with a commanding presence when talking to the media.
Yep thats it. Thanks for pointing it out to me.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:19 PM   #352
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Maybe the best argument I've heard to trade up for RG3 is that: if we don't the Eagles might.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:22 PM   #353
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Yep thats it. Thanks for pointing it out to me.
All I'm saying is that the hype RGIII is getting doesnt simply stem from a strong showing at the combine. It's deserved.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:46 PM   #354
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Hard to disagree that Tannehill isn't worth the sixth pick if you can watch one practice and tell he's not ready to play.

Someone's going to be the third best quarterback in this draft though. If it's not Tannehill that's worth the sixth pick, it will be someone else.
would you rather take the best corner, wide reciever or tackle in the draft or the 3rd best QB in the draft at 6th?

My opinion of how close the QB are 1. Luck..............2.RG3........................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............3.Tannehill.
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would you rather take the best corner, wide reciever or tackle in the draft or the 3rd best QB in the draft at 6th?

My opinion of how close the QB are 1. Luck..............2.RG3........................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............3.Tannehill.

Just to be clear do the periods represent skips or jumps?
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would you rather take the best corner, wide reciever or tackle in the draft or the 3rd best QB in the draft at 6th?

My opinion of how close the QB are 1. Luck..............2.RG3........................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............3.Tannehill.
I might take the best corner (Claiborne)

Don't think the best receiver (Blackmon? Floyd?) is better than the 3rd best QB

The best T (Kalil) won't be available at 6th. Unless you're saying the Redskins sign Manning and trade up to 2. Then shock the world by drafting Matt Kalil
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:59 PM   #357
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I'm with SmootSmack on this. Corner isn't the need those offensive positions are, but Claiborne is a better player than everyone in the draft except Luck and Richardson.
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would you rather take the best corner, wide reciever or tackle in the draft or the 3rd best QB in the draft at 6th?

My opinion of how close the QB are 1. Luck..............2.RG3........................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............3.Tannehill.
I think that the gap between RGIII and Tannehill is not as big as you make it out to be.
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Some are saying the price will be at least 2 first a 3rd and a 5? Wow idk about all that , this team needs more than one player, I'd rather sign Manning and draft a qb like tannehill
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