QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10)

Dirtbag59 · 03-02-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Your right, but lets drink from the half full glass and think that since he's better then anyone even at 60% then add in the fact we only lost some of our games by 7 points or less he would easily get us into the play offs. However part of our problem was not QB play but instead WR and TE play with dropped balls and tipped balls which were INT. So if we can bring in a couple really good WR's, and PM, this team should do a lot better in it's own division with trying to make the playoffs.

Now we all know the we should settle for nothing less then SB but getting to the playoffs would go a long way in keeping MS/Allen and staff and the consistancy this organization needs to get better.

The thing I've learned over the past few years is that every season is different, well except for us in terms of the end result but thats another story. Still the point is we can't really expect those 7 point games to be there next year. It's a nice footnote to fall back on but I mean this time last year I thought Ryan Torain was going to continue to be a beast when healthy, I was dead wrong. I also thought a healthy Landry would dominate, wrong again. I also never imagined the 49ers doing what they did.

I will say this. I think with RG3 the running game alone will be much improved. I'm a broken record on this now but when you have a QB with RG3's running ability running bootlegs off handoffs the cutback lanes break wide open.

On top of that as Matty pointed out we just need a QB in the passing game that won't be good for two turnovers a game. RG3 at the very least can be that as a rookie and possibly more I mean this is a guy that after 3 games had more TD's then incompletions.

I believe that with Griffin at QB we can be a viable playoff contender in our first year. I mean it was after all a successful running game and strong defense that allowed the Falcons to get to the playoffs with Matt Ryan (whose line the previous year gave up more sacks then any team in the league) so why not us?

CultBrennan59 · 03-02-2012, 05:07 PM

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REDSKINS4ever · 03-02-2012, 05:09 PM

In the event that Washington is unable to trade up, I would say that throwing a boat load of dough to Peyton Manning would be better than drafting Ryan Tannehill. The Redskins could sign Manning, and then draft Brandon Weeden or Nick Foles or Kirk Cousins to be Manning's successor. Then in the draft, we could focus on building the team accordingly. We could use the first round draft choice on a right tackle, or maybe Justin Blackmon.

I still like the idea of drafting Robert Griffin III, but if we are unable to move up, then Peyton Manning wouldn't be such a bad signing. Hopefully, Kyle Shanahan will be intelligent enough to tweak the offense to how Manning plays quarterback instead of trying to micro manage him into being a Shanahan robot, which in turn would cause conflict.

Dirtbag59 · 03-02-2012, 05:15 PM

Here we go

Unfortunately the commentary is in something that ain't ingles but the point remains the same. This guy is real. And for those who say TCU wasn't that great of a defense keep in mind they were #1 from 2008 to 2010. They dropped to 32nd this year in part because of this game where Griffin dominated them.

The Goat · 03-02-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

In the event that Washington is unable to trade up, I would say that throwing a boat load of dough to Peyton Manning would be better than drafting Ryan Tannehill. The Redskins could sign Manning, and then draft Brandon Weeden or Nick Foles or Kirk Cousins to be Manning's successor. Then in the draft, we could focus on building the team accordingly. We could use the first round draft choice on a right tackle, or maybe Justin Blackmon.

I still like the idea of drafting Robert Griffin III, but if we are unable to move up, then Peyton Manning wouldn't be such a bad signing. Hopefully, Kyle Shanahan will be intelligent enough to tweak the offense to how Manning plays quarterback instead of trying to micro manage him into being a Shanahan robot, which in turn would cause conflict.

Hopefully Kyle will be mature enough to acknowledge his football acumen is just a fraction of Manning's and he'll shut up, sit back and try to learn all that he can. This is, of course, a 2nd best alternative to the scenario where Kyle's not part of any scenario whatsoever. My intuition, and I would put money on this, is Manning's biggest hesitation about coming here is Kyle's presence.

REDSKINS4ever · 03-02-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Hopefully Kyle will be mature enough to acknowledge his football acumen is just a fraction of Manning's and he'll shut up, sit back and try to learn all that he can. This is, of course, a 2nd best alternative to the scenario where Kyle's not part of any scenario whatsoever. My intuition, and I would put money on this, is Manning's biggest hesitation about coming here is Kyle's presence.

I agree with you 1,000,000 %.

Mechanix544 · 03-02-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

He's got one great year left in him if that and that year might not even be this year. It's very possible he could go the way of Favre. Started out great with the Jets, injuries started to get the best of him he failed down the stretch. Came back with Minnesota, got a little healthier, had a career year then the following year injuries got the better of him.

Either way Mannning is a band aid with a very short shelf life. 3 years tops if everything goes perfect.

wrong, completely disagree. Manning could play until he is 40 or 41, and that is 4 or 5 years. If anyone could do it, it is Peyton Manning.

And I cant wait to see the highlights of him tearing it up with a chip on his shoulder the size of Mt Everest.

Lotus · 03-02-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

In the event that Washington is unable to trade up, I would say that throwing a boat load of dough to Peyton Manning would be better than drafting Ryan Tannehill. The Redskins could sign Manning, and then draft Brandon Weeden or Nick Foles or Kirk Cousins to be Manning's successor. Then in the draft, we could focus on building the team accordingly. We could use the first round draft choice on a right tackle, or maybe Justin Blackmon.

I still like the idea of drafting Robert Griffin III, but if we are unable to move up, then Peyton Manning wouldn't be such a bad signing. Hopefully, Kyle Shanahan will be intelligent enough to tweak the offense to how Manning plays quarterback instead of trying to micro manage him into being a Shanahan robot, which in turn would cause conflict.

I offer that it is not an either/or. We could sign PM and draft RT, letting Tannehill learn behind Manning. Then we'd be set with high quality quarterbacking for years.

REDSKINS4ever · 03-02-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

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Pretty straight forward article. It's either Griffin III or Peyton Manning. I think the Redskins could win with either. But Mike Shanahan, after his failings with McNabb, his miscalculation with John Beck, and his irrational decision to go with Rex Grossman, has hurt the Redskins more than anything. This is his last chance to get it right. Maybe the sports writers are speaking for Daniel Snyder in saying that Shanahan will get canned if the Redskins don't start winning and soon. I doubt if he gets fired. He could very well be in Washington for all five years of his contract. But Mike Shanahan, must get it right this time around with his next major quarterback decision. Manning or RG3.

Mechanix544 · 03-02-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

The thing I've learned over the past few years is that every season is different, well except for us in terms of the end result but thats another story. Still the point is we can't really expect those 7 point games to be there next year. It's a nice footnote to fall back on but I mean this time last year I thought Ryan Torain was going to continue to be a beast when healthy, I was dead wrong. I also thought a healthy Landry would dominate, wrong again. I also never imagined the 49ers doing what they did.

I will say this. I think with RG3 the running game alone will be much improved. I'm a broken record on this now but when you have a QB with RG3's running ability running bootlegs off handoffs the cutback lanes break wide open.

On top of that as Matty pointed out we just need a QB in the passing game that won't be good for two turnovers a game. RG3 at the very least can be that as a rookie and possibly more I mean this is a guy that after 3 games had more TD's then incompletions.

I believe that with Griffin at QB we can be a viable playoff contender in our first year. I mean it was after all a successful running game and strong defense that allowed the Falcons to get to the playoffs with Matt Ryan (whose line the previous year gave up more sacks then any team in the league) so why not us?

And then I completely agree with this one.

I guess i wouldnt be too upset if we got RG3 or Manning, but RG3 does seem to be the shinier and sparkly newer toy.

REDSKINS4ever · 03-02-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I offer that it is not an either/or. We could sign PM and draft RT, letting Tannehill learn behind Manning. Then we'd be set with high quality quarterbacking for years.

The only way for the Redskins to get Tannehill is to reach for him at #6. Even if the Redskins do sign Manning in free agency, and then draft Tannehill, that wouldn't be such a bad move so I agree with you there. But there are other options than Tannehill at quarterback. Either of the QB draftees would benefit with a few years behind Manning and possibly Grossman if he is re-signed.

Dirtbag59 · 03-02-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The only way for the Redskins to get Tannehill is to reach for him at #6. Even if the Redskins do sign Manning in free agency, and then draft Tannehill, that wouldn't be such a bad move so I agree with you there. But there are other options than Tannehill at quarterback. Either of the QB draftees would benefit with a few years behind Manning and possibly Grossman if he is re-signed.

You would have to sell Manning on the move before hand if you were to sign him. Any team he goes to he's going to want those early picks to go towards potential first year starters.

Dirtbag59 · 03-02-2012, 08:30 PM

Here it is in English

diehardskin2982 · 03-02-2012, 11:49 PM

My question is if we draft RGIII should we hire Steve Young as a QB consultant to help his transition into the NFL?

SBXVII · 03-02-2012, 11:54 PM

According to the draft gods (magazine)...

Ryan Tannehill-

Upside- Tannehill is one of the best athlete's in this QB class. A converted WR, he has excellent feet and balance, and he keeps his accuracy on the run. He has a quick release and a great feel for the subtleties of the position, looking off defenders and staying poised under pressure. He worked under former Green Bay Pakers coach Mike Sherman in a pro style offense.

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Griffin/Grossman	103	83.06%
Orton/Tannehill	5	4.03%
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Weeden/J.Johnson	2	1.61%
Hoyer/Foles	0	0%
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03-02-2012, 05:07 PM	#257
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,590	Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10) Redskins' choices: Manning, Griffin or new coaching staff in 2013 - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy Advice __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

03-02-2012, 05:09 PM	#258
REDSKINS4ever The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York Posts: 2,030	Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10) In the event that Washington is unable to trade up, I would say that throwing a boat load of dough to Peyton Manning would be better than drafting Ryan Tannehill. The Redskins could sign Manning, and then draft Brandon Weeden or Nick Foles or Kirk Cousins to be Manning's successor. Then in the draft, we could focus on building the team accordingly. We could use the first round draft choice on a right tackle, or maybe Justin Blackmon. I still like the idea of drafting Robert Griffin III, but if we are unable to move up, then Peyton Manning wouldn't be such a bad signing. Hopefully, Kyle Shanahan will be intelligent enough to tweak the offense to how Manning plays quarterback instead of trying to micro manage him into being a Shanahan robot, which in turn would cause conflict.

03-02-2012, 05:15 PM	#259
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,957	Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10) Here we go Unfortunately the commentary is in something that ain't ingles but the point remains the same. This guy is real. And for those who say TCU wasn't that great of a defense keep in mind they were #1 from 2008 to 2010. They dropped to 32nd this year in part because of this game where Griffin dominated them. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

03-02-2012, 08:30 PM	#268
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,957	Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10) Here it is in English __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

03-02-2012, 11:49 PM	#269
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,924	Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10) My question is if we draft RGIII should we hire Steve Young as a QB consultant to help his transition into the NFL? __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

03-02-2012, 11:54 PM	#270
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10) According to the draft gods (magazine)... Ryan Tannehill- Upside- Tannehill is one of the best athlete's in this QB class. A converted WR, he has excellent feet and balance, and he keeps his accuracy on the run. He has a quick release and a great feel for the subtleties of the position, looking off defenders and staying poised under pressure. He worked under former Green Bay Pakers coach Mike Sherman in a pro style offense.

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