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Old 03-06-2012, 10:39 AM   #166
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Good list. Harry Douglas, Tracy Porter may also be considered as well
I see Harry Douglas as a younger version of Armstrong. Good vertical speed but limitations in running the complete route tree. I'm thinking Porter may be expensive, former first rounder, some turnover capability. I like him though. Wasn't there some talk of him converting to FS?
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:41 AM   #167
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When you get right down to it, I am not overly excited about any of the WR's in free agency.
VJ, as I understand it, is a bit of a head case, has had some off-field issues and just never seemed to me to be a real difference maker. He's good. Is he a "play maker". Maybe - he's got the measurables to be one, I just don't recall him ever taking over a game (I am sure someone will cite me the stats to say he is. I admit, this is just a gut call).

Garcon, speedy but drops a lot of balls it seems. A little one-dimensional. Had the opportunity to step up after Wayne was injured and Harrison was released but just didn't.

Colston, again, not a play maker. Solid, good (not great) in the red zone but just not someone who takes the game on his back and says "Just get me the damn ball".

I guess they are all upgrades over the current stable. but not by much and certainly not "the Answer". In light of that, I hope we keep the offers reasonable and don't overpay for an, ultimately, above average WR.
I think solid arguments can be made for all three being considered play makers, and all are definite upgrades over our current group.

VJ for example averages 17.5 YPC for his career. He can really blow the lid off a D.
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Colston scares me the most....big injury risk and seemed to just be another cog in an explosive offense. Can he really move to a new team and dictate coverage like a player at his expected salary level should?
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Decoud is solid but imo he's not better than Landry or atogwe
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DeCoud's staying in Atlanta, just got word
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Heard we're going to offer Jackson 5yrs somewhere in the range of $45-60 mil.
this is concerning for a couple of reasons:

1) Tampering
2) Isnt Jackson one joint away from a 1-year suspension, just like davis and Williams?
3) Thats alot of money to give someone who will turn 30 before the seasons over.
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Sorry but I would not give Jackson that deal, he's almost 30 and honestly he's been inconsistent plus suspended also. I'd stick with getting garcon and someone else
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Heard we're going to offer Jackson 5yrs somewhere in the range of $45-60 mil.
That sounds about right...he's probably gonna get 10-12 per year on the open market. And he's been fighting with the Chargers for years to get his big payday...so i don't see him giving anyone any discounts.
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Jackson is the kind of receiver Snyder and Cerrato would have jumped to sign. He's not the kind of player i want us to go after.
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Jackson is the kind of receiver Snyder and Cerrato would have jumped to sign. He's not the kind of player i want us to go after.
Well there is some evidence that Shanny has liked VJ for years. I agree that we don't want to do business like we did under Snyderatto ever again, but there has to be a middle ground. Eventually we are going to need to sign a big name free agent and when we do it does not mean that Vinny is coming back. I think Shanny & Bruce have already proved that they know how to handle the salary cap sensibly. DC is no longer the place for free agents to ring the cash register. And that means if they think VJ can make a big difference in their offense and is worth the big pay day then I have no problem with it...
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I've cooled a bit on wanting VJ here, now I'm thinking I'd rather go after someone like Garcon who's younger and has his best years ahead.


I've been thinking the same thing, if for no other reason I'd enjoy his 6'5" frame on Madden.
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I've been thinking the same thing, if for no other reason I'd enjoy his 6'5" frame on Madden.

who is 6'5"?
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Well there is some evidence that Shanny has liked VJ for years. I agree that we don't want to do business like we did under Snyderatto ever again, but there has to be a middle ground. Eventually we are going to need to sign a big name free agent and when we do it does not mean that Vinny is coming back. I think Shanny & Bruce have already proved that they know how to handle the salary cap sensibly. DC is no longer the place for free agents to ring the cash register. And that means if they think VJ can make a big difference in their offense and is worth the big pay day then I have no problem with it...
For everyone who hated the Haynesworth drama, (which should be everyone), this is where it can come back to help the team in the future. If any player wants a place where name/contract alone will give you a free ride, I am pretty sure, they will not be coming to the Skins while Bruce and Shanny are here. But IF they get the big bucks, and come to perform, I think they will be rewarded. Bad FA spending is not just big names, it's when big names come and be big busts.
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Scouting info on Thomas DeCoud...

Grade: 74 | Key

Comment: DeCoud is a very athletic safety with long arms that allow him the reach to tip the ball away from receivers. He lacks premier speed and acceleration but does a good job of reading the quarterback's eyes and shows above-average route recognition in deep zone. He is a solid tackler both in space as well as in the hole and is not at all timid about inserting himself on run support. While he gets to a lot of balls he lacks the kind of top ball skills that would allow him to come up with more interceptions.
Falcons just re-signed DeCoud.. One off of my list. Hopefully we are still talking to Landry about a one year deal.
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For everyone who hated the Haynesworth drama, (which should be everyone), this is where it can come back to help the team in the future. If any player wants a place where name/contract alone will give you a free ride, I am pretty sure, they will not be coming to the Skins while Bruce and Shanny are here. But IF they get the big bucks, and come to perform, I think they will be rewarded. Bad FA spending is not just big names, it's when big names come and be big busts.
Agreed...that big Al mess, while unpleasant to listen to did serve a purpose.
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