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Old 03-04-2012, 07:32 AM   #181
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:40 AM   #182
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:20 AM   #183
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SS,how are you so sure ?I ask becuase having been in many a locker room coachs and owners have snitchs,maybe it's an equipment guy or a ball boy or an assistant trying to move up the ladder but min the head coach had to have known.
I don't really understand your question
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I don't really understand your question

Ok, you said that you think it was only Williams in DC and no one else knew about it and while I am an admitted fan of Joe Gibbs I'm just asking why you think that noone else in the Skins organization knew this was going on,maybe not Gibbs then VC did,no way can you keep this quiet on a team with 53+ people.
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Ok, you said that you think it was only Williams in DC and no one else knew about it and while I am an admitted fan of Joe Gibbs I'm just asking why you think that noone else in the Skins organization knew this was going on,maybe not Gibbs then VC did,no way can you keep this quiet on a team with 53+ people.
I don't think that's what I said. What I said was Williams kept a lot of things from Gibbs (and they didn't have the best relationship) so it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know. And it's not hard to keep things quiet. Teams form cliques all the time, offense vs. defense, linemen vs skill players, receivers vs running backs and so on.

There's an email paper trail all the way up to Sean Peyton in New Orleans, no evidence the same exists for the Redskins
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:37 AM   #186
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Are you serious? GW started a bounty program that gave EXTRA rewards for knocking key players out of the game. Is knocking someone out of a game not hurting them?

As long as it's a clean hit, huh? You're high as a kite if you really think GW said, hey, let's knock Kurt Warner's ass out of this ball game, I'll pay you thousands for, but gosh darn it, it better be clean! LOL. Yeah. Unless it's a random accident like, for example, when a guy's foot gets stuck in the turf and his knee gets all twisted up when tackled, guys typically don't get knocked out of a game on a clean hit or form tackle. What does typically knock guys out of games are head shots, giving QB's that extra drive into the turf on a sack, tackling a guy at his knees, etc etc. And hey, if you did that in GW's defense, you get extra cheddar. It might draw a flag, but that dude's hurt, and you get that bounty. That's all good, right?
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Re: New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters

So the NFL is now opened an investigation into the Skins.


Does the fact that this involves multiple teams, but mostly under the direction of 1 coach mean that the punishment will be more on Williams(fines or suspensions) or still team based(fines and draft picks)?

People are expecting a Spygate-like punishment. If the Skins get fined the 2013 1st round draft pick, you can forget getting RG3. If the Skins quickly make the trade, before the punishment, the NFL may take the 2014 1st round pick. This means no 1st rounder 2 years in a row, plus and more picks we would give to the Rams.
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So the NFL is now opened an investigation into the Skins.


Does the fact that this involves multiple teams, but mostly under the direction of 1 coach mean that the punishment will be more on Williams(fines or suspensions) or still team based(fines and draft picks)?

People are expecting a Spygate-like punishment. If the Skins get fined the 2013 1st round draft pick, you can forget getting RG3. If the Skins quickly make the trade, before the punishment, the NFL may take the 2014 1st round pick. This means no 1st rounder 2 years in a row, plus and more picks we would give to the Rams.
This thing with Gregg Williams operating a bounty mission while in Washington was two head coaches and three defensive coordinators ago. Why would the Redskins, who are now operating from under an entirely different coaching regime be punished now for draft picks? That would unjust for Roger Goddell to hand out such a punishment. Mike Shanahan and Jim Haslett have nothing to do with that because they weren't coaching the Redskins from 2004-2007. If Joe Gibbs was still the coach now, I'd say the NFL commissioner would have reason to discipline the Redskins. Williams most recent team, the New Orleans Saints, may very well receive swift punishment namely because Sean Payton is still their head coach.
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Skins aren't going to lose a pick, especially not a first rounder. There's no proof that the team knew about this, unlike the Saints.
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This thing with Gregg Williams operating a bounty mission while in Washington was two head coaches and three defensive coordinators ago. Why would the Redskins, who are now operating from under an entirely different coaching regime be punished now for draft picks? That would unjust for Roger Goddell to hand out such a punishment. Mike Shanahan and Jim Haslett have nothing to do with that because they weren't coaching the Redskins from 2004-2007. If Joe Gibbs was still the coach now, I'd say the NFL commissioner would have reason to discipline the Redskins. Williams most recent team, the New Orleans Saints, may very well receive swift punishment namely because Sean Payton is still their head coach.
The most damning thing for Payton and the Saints is they knew this was going on, and covered it up and lied to the league about it.
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We're not going to lose any draft picks. I expect a fine, somewhere in the 100k-500k range, and that'll be it. How are they going to punish the current modern day Redskins for something that happened 5 years ago? That's why there's a statute of limitations. A fine serves its purpose, we still get punished, but the real punishment will go to the Saints and probably Gregg Williams.

There's a difference between what we did and what they did. Obviously the program was similar, but the difference is our head coach had no knowledge (and there's no evidence that proves that he did know about it) and the fact that Payton and the FO in Naw'leans was warned and still continued it. That and the fact that they are still in Naw'leans is the reason there will be fines, suspensions, and loss of draft picks. I expect Gregg Williams to be suspende and/or banned from the league, I don't believe he's the only defensive coach in the league who was doing this but he's the sacrificial lamb in this case. And so be it.

There's a whole paper trail incriminating guys like Payton and Loomis in NO. Even GW has come out and admitted it. The Bills will likely get fined as well, but again the Bills and Redskins fall into the same category here. The Saints will be the ones that get hit hard. I'm not worried about this affecting our draft at all, tbh.

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We're not going to lose any draft picks. I expect a fine, somewhere in the 100k-500k range, and that'll be it. How are they going to punish the current modern day Redskins for something that happened 5 years ago? That's why there's a statute of limitations. A fine serves its purpose, we still get punished, but the real punishment will go to the Saints and probably Gregg Williams.

There's a difference between what we did and what they did. Obviously the program was similar, but the difference is our head coach had no knowledge (and there's no evidence that proves that he did know about it) and the fact that Payton and the FO in Naw'leans was warned and still continued it. That and the fact that they are still in Naw'leans is the reason there will be fines, suspensions, and loss of draft picks. I expect Gregg Williams to be suspende and/or banned from the league, I don't believe he's the only defensive coach in the league who was doing this but he's the sacrificial lamb in this case. And so be it.

There's a whole paper trail incriminating guys like Payton and Loomis in NO. Even GW has come out and admitted it. The Bills will likely get fined as well, but again the Bills and Redskins fall into the same category here. The Saints will be the ones that get hit hard. I'm not worried about this affecting our draft at all, tbh.
You honestly think Williams is going to be banned? If he is that's utterly ridiculous. 4 game suspension seems to be fair. I wouldn't expect anything to happen to us or Buffalo.
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Listen to Sharper's comments. We'll agree to disagree.
Did you bother to read my links about malicious intent? They were flat out trying to hurt guys. So you can disagree with the facts, that's fine.
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You honestly think Williams is going to be banned? If he is that's utterly ridiculous. 4 game suspension seems to be fair. I wouldn't expect anything to happen to us or Buffalo.
I think a 1 year ban is in order. With everything the NFL preaches these days about player safety, anything less than dropping the hammer on GW/Saints would be so hypocritical.
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We're not going to lose any draft picks. I expect a fine, somewhere in the 100k-500k range, and that'll be it. How are they going to punish the current modern day Redskins for something that happened 5 years ago? That's why there's a statute of limitations.
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In the NFL,where does this "statute of Limitations"exist?
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