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Old 03-04-2012, 02:21 PM   #196
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You honestly think Williams is going to be banned? If he is that's utterly ridiculous. 4 game suspension seems to be fair. I wouldn't expect anything to happen to us or Buffalo.
I doubt you will see him in the NFL again.
He'll get fired and disappear.
Imagine the boos the Saints will get if hes on the sidelines on opening day.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:27 PM   #197
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I doubt you will see him in the NFL again.
He'll get fired and disappear.
Imagine the boos the Saints will get if hes on the sidelines on opening day.

He's the Defensive cordinater for the Rams( for now)
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I think a 1 year ban is in order. With everything the NFL preaches these days about player safety, anything less than dropping the hammer on GW/Saints would be so hypocritical.
Agreed, 1 year at the least. I think the NFL will look to make an example of him. Doesn't help that he straight up lied to the league either.
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I think a 1 year ban is in order. With everything the NFL preaches these days about player safety, anything less than dropping the hammer on GW/Saints would be so hypocritical.
Not to mention it would set the precedent for future cases and potential lawsuits if a player received a career ending or worse injury from one of these bounty actions.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:54 PM   #200
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This story has gone past informative and inspiring positive change to protect players in the NFL to: a BS sensationalistic story.
YES, Gregg Williams went over the line in trying to inspire his troops, waaaay over the line. Pay $ for taking out opposing players should never ever be tolerated. Trying to intentionally take out another player with an illegal dirty play is already not allowed. Fine him and suspend Williams and send a strong message going forward to everyone this will be dealt with severely. Done.
However now we have these articles with Dungy and others floating theories on why Manning, Farve and other star players got hurt. We can not start investigations going back years 3, 5, 10 years.
Let's nip this in the bud and move forward. Lay off the sensationalistic stories and quotes of possible disgruntled players or coaches running their mouth.
Everyone has learned the lesson. Move on. A 8 to 16 game suspension and a big is fine.
Let's not go over board with this, Williams was not the only person to ever do this. Let's not demonize him.

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Given that this is mostly GW's doing I would expect him to bear the brunt of the punishment. The Saints should only get punished if as an organization knew about it, which sounds like they did. It seems a bit pointless for the Skins and Bills to get punished, or at least get as harsh of a punishment as the Saints are likely to get.

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He's the Defensive cordinater for the Rams( for now)
errrr...yea...I knew that.
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The biggest problem I have with this whole story?

ESPN's choice of headline....

"Report: NFL to probe Redskins"


... ouch.

Wait... Haven't they been doing that for years?
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This story has gone past informative and inspiring positive change to protect players in the NFL to: a BS sensationalistic story.
YES, Gregg Williams went over the line in trying to inspire his troops, waaaay over the line. Pay $ for taking out opposing players should never ever be tolerated. Trying to intentionally take out another player with an illegal dirty play is already not allowed. Fine him and suspend Williams and send a strong message going forward to everyone this will be dealt with severely. Done.
However now we have these articles with Dungy and others floating theories on why Manning, Farve and other star players got hurt. We can not start investigations going back years 3, 5, 10 years.
Let's nip this in the bud and move forward. Lay off the sensationalistic stories and quotes of possible disgruntled players or coaches running their mouth.
Everyone has learned the lesson. Move on. A 8 to 16 game suspension and a big is fine.
Let's not go over board with this, Williams was not the only person to ever do this. Let's not demonize him.

100% agree. the cover up and refusal to quit is really the main issue, but like you state Williams is not the first. a variant of this behavior has been around since football began. But I agree with others, its time for it to stop.
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Old 03-04-2012, 03:37 PM   #205
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Would think Sean Peyton and Loomis get some sort of suspension too. You can't deny it, then admit it but do nothing about it and not expect to get reprimanded
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You honestly think Williams is going to be banned? If he is that's utterly ridiculous. 4 game suspension seems to be fair. I wouldn't expect anything to happen to us or Buffalo.
He's the sacrificial lamb. Was he the only one doing it? Highly doubtful. Will he be made an example of because he continued after he was told to stop? Yes. I think Scud is right, a minimum 1 year ban sounds about right. They are going to make an example out of him as a warning to any other coaches doing it. It doesn't matter whether you think it's right or wrong, what matters is he intentionally kept breaking a rule thinking there would be no consequences.
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Not to mention it would set the precedent for future cases and potential lawsuits if a player received a career ending or worse injury from one of these bounty actions.
i think this will be the biggest factor in determining his punishment. with all the current law suits against the nfl and the many to come, i feel they have to make a stand and show they don't condone this in any way what so ever.
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Would think Sean Peyton and Loomis get some sort of suspension too. You can't deny it, then admit it but do nothing about it and not expect to get reprimanded
Agreed. But the future is what is really important. Making sure all coaches, staff, FO and all players are 100% clear on the rules and consequences related to this type behavior is more important than investigating acts that go back 3 to 50 years ago. We'll probably soon have ESPN or CNNSI quote a former team janitor say Vince Lombardi used to have a bounty system.
Fix it and stop the finger pointing.
I guess GWillims is the sacrificial example of what will happen.

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Agreed. But the future is what is really important. Making sure all coaches, staff, FO and all players are 100% clear on the rules and consequences related to this type behavior is more important than investigating acts that go back 3 to 50 years ago. We'll probably soon have ESPN or CNNSI quote a former team janitor say Vince Lombardi used to have a bounty system.
Fix it and stop the finger pointing.
I guess GWillims is the sacrificial example of what will happen.
I think it's really more than just a case of not....really understanding that it isn't "Hoyle" to pony up cash bounties to inflict injury and possibly career ending cheap shots on the competition? That sort of "Really, when did that start" mentality is very......tired.
If you're not bright enough to cease and desist after already being caught and warned, you deserve your ass Nailed to the Cross. You will see the rest of the league educate themselves real quick as to what the rules are and are not.
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This story has gone past informative and inspiring positive change to protect players in the NFL to: a BS sensationalistic story.
YES, Gregg Williams went over the line in trying to inspire his troops, waaaay over the line. Pay $ for taking out opposing players should never ever be tolerated. Trying to intentionally take out another player with an illegal dirty play is already not allowed. Fine him and suspend Williams and send a strong message going forward to everyone this will be dealt with severely. Done.
However now we have these articles with Dungy and others floating theories on why Manning, Farve and other star players got hurt. We can not start investigations going back years 3, 5, 10 years.
Let's nip this in the bud and move forward. Lay off the sensationalistic stories and quotes of possible disgruntled players or coaches running their mouth.
Everyone has learned the lesson. Move on. A 8 to 16 game suspension and a big is fine.
Let's not go over board with this, Williams was not the only person to ever do this. Let's not demonize him.
Well said. I'm in agreement.
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