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Old 03-04-2012, 05:24 PM   #211
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Agreed. But the future is what is really important. Making sure all coaches, staff, FO and all players are 100% clear on the rules and consequences related to this type behavior is more important than investigating acts that go back 3 to 50 years ago. We'll probably soon have ESPN or CNNSI quote a former team janitor say Vince Lombardi used to have a bounty system.
Fix it and stop the finger pointing.
I guess GWillims is the sacrificial example of what will happen.
True, I think the investigation into the Redskins and other teams is more of a dog and pony show than anything else. The hammer will fall heavily on the Saints and Williams. Imagine though if Goodell suspends Sean Peyton for a year? Who takes over the Saints?
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True, I think the investigation into the Redskins and other teams is more of a dog and pony show than anything else. The hammer will fall heavily on the Saints and Williams. Imagine though if Goodell suspends Sean Peyton for a year? Who takes over the Saints?
I kinda expected an investigation to happen with the Redskins and any other team where Williams coached. It is a bit silly to think that the Redskins or the Bills would be held accountable for anything, unless there is some smoking gun that the ownership/FO knew about what was going on. Even still, as you said, the Saints and Williams will bear the brunt of any punishment.
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True, I think the investigation into the Redskins and other teams is more of a dog and pony show than anything else. The hammer will fall heavily on the Saints and Williams. Imagine though if Goodell suspends Sean Peyton for a year? Who takes over the Saints?
It will hurt no question, but the Saints are a veteran team and they will survive a short suspension. A long suspension of Sean Peyton will kill their season.

The Saint players can put a bounty on Goodell when he is on the sideline.
I wonder if Sean Peyton's knee injury on the sidelines last year was a bounty? Doh! Payback is a bitch.

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Greg Blache disliked and discontinued Gregg Williams’ bounty program | ProFootballTalk

It looks as if, and this is coming from Blache, Gibbs as well as a few ex players in Washington at the time, Williams was definitely the one spearheading the bounties, and that noone in this organization knowingly approved the acts. This has to be a good thing for the current organization if we are to get investigated, I doubt any serious penalties would be levied against us.
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Did you bother to read my links about malicious intent? They were flat out trying to hurt guys. So you can disagree with the facts, that's fine.
The link I read quoted ONE guy who took out James Stewart on a LEGAL it. What's the big deal there? Stewart got hurt on a legal hit!!!! It happens every week in the NFL. It sucks that he got hurt but Wire did nothing wrong.

Let me ask you this. What in the world do you think Sean Taylor was trying to do on all those "kill" shots that he delivered in his career??? He wasn't just trying to bring the guy down. He's trying to hurt the opponent. Not hurt him where is career is in jepordy. But hurt him where he's trying to intimidate and inflict pain. That's football!!!!!!!! What GW did was wrong. I just don't have a problem with it, nor do a lot of the players that I've heard comment on it.
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errrr...yea...i knew that.
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The link I read quoted ONE guy who took out James Stewart on a LEGAL it. What's the big deal there? Stewart got hurt on a legal hit!!!! It happens every week in the NFL. It sucks that he got hurt but Wire did nothing wrong.

Let me ask you this. What in the world do you think Sean Taylor was trying to do on all those "kill" shots that he delivered in his career??? He wasn't just trying to bring the guy down. He's trying to hurt the opponent. Not hurt him where is career is in jepordy. But hurt him where he's trying to intimidate and inflict pain. That's football!!!!!!!! What GW did was wrong. I just don't have a problem with it, nor do a lot of the players that I've heard comment on it.
I am sure that there are some players out there that have the "intimidation" mentality. However, these bounties pretty much give incentives to players to hurt them to the point where it may jeopardize their career period.
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Analysis: "Pay for pain" scandal could end up in courts - Yahoo! News



Good story on some things that could end up happening. With the NFL trying to keep players healthy, and trying to reduce catastrophic injuries, look for them to take a very firm stance on this one guys. This one could very well end up in courts.

In Short - Gregg Williams is toast.
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I am sure that there are some players out there that have the "intimidation" mentality. However, these bounties pretty much give incentives to players to hurt them to the point where it may jeopardize their career period.
So do you think when Sean Taylor laid the wood on people was he trying to "jeopardize" a career? He was obviously part of this bounty program. You can go on You Tube now and look at all the hits Taylor laid out. What's your opinion on his hitting style?
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But wasn't Sean Taylor like that in college too? so investigate the U then?
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I have an insider at Godells office and she said he told her only the Saints will recieve punishment. He said because anyone associated with the Redskins or Bills the last two decades have been punished enough.
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I have an insider at Godells office and she said he told her only the Saints will recieve punishment. He said because anyone associated with the Redskins or Bills the last two decades have been punished enough.
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So do you think when Sean Taylor laid the wood on people was he trying to "jeopardize" a career? He was obviously part of this bounty program. You can go on You Tube now and look at all the hits Taylor laid out. What's your opinion on his hitting style?
Look I can see there is no convincing you so I'm going to stop. I have my opinion, you have your own. It doesn't mean sh*t what we think, in the end this is in the hands of the NFL, the teams, the owners, and the players. Bottom line what happened is wrong, the NFL is changing, and we as fans have to deal with that.

There are things from the "good ol' days" that are good and some are bad (like many things in life). In the end, this is "wrong enough" that Williams, the Saints, and players are going to lose money over it and have their careers affected by it.
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I think investigation with the redskins is to build a stronger case against williams. But who knows how much they can dig up, we could possibly face some fines.
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