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Old 03-05-2012, 09:34 PM   #361
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Washington Redskins players, coach say fund for big plays, not 'bounties' - ESPN

Great article and this is the kinda stuff that goes on all over the country.
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I'd been wondering if that's why he left Jacksonville rather abruptly. Like did they know of this and essentially dismiss him?
Or the reason he was shown the door in DC in favor of Zorn and Blache.
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Or the reason he was shown the door in DC in favor of Zorn and Blache.
Nah, I think Vinny being a moron combined with them suddenly souring on Fassel did the trick. Somehow, Vinny and Danny were sooooo wowed by Zorn's interviewing magic that they decided to make him head coach. Plus, Gregg wouldn't be a puppet for them.
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Or the reason he was shown the door in DC in favor of Zorn and Blache.
I bet all those fanboys out there championing for GW for head coach have egg on their face now. Imagine had he become our HC only to have this crap happen to us.
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I bet all those fanboys out there championing for GW for head coach have egg on their face now. Imagine had he become our HC only to have this crap happen to us.
Well, that's a stupid way to put it.

1) There's a good chance we'd be better off as a franchise if he got hired instead of Zorn.

2) If he had been here and the league had warned him to stop the program and he did not, I and many others would advocate his immediate dismissal when the NFL broke their silence regarding this story on Friday.

There's no reason to look at this as a referendum on the hiring process in 2008. It's a logical position that he could have been (and probably was) the best guy for the job in 2008, but not in 2012.
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I was never a Blatche fan, but I do respect and agree about what he says about Gibbs. Blache: Joe Gibbs ‘had no idea’ of Redskins’ bounty system - The Insider - The Washington Post
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Matt Bowen is a lying sucker for that article he wrote.
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Matt Bowen is a lying sucker for that article he wrote.
What in the world did he have to gain? I think it is entirely possible that different players had different views about what the "program's" goals were.
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Washington Redskins players, coach say fund for big plays, not 'bounties' - ESPN

Great article and this is the kinda stuff that goes on all over the country.
Fred Smoot weighs in too.

Smoot: Williams never paid Redskins for injuring opponents
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So this pot that Smoot is speaking of, was it kept locked up on the Love Boat?
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So this pot that Smoot is speaking of, was it kept locked up on the Love Boat?
No, Fred Davis was smoking it.
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I do not condone bounty hunting in the NFL.

With that being said it appears that the average payout for one of thes bounties was less than 1/2 of a percent of an average players annual salary. Escuse me for saying so, but that would be like "earning a sticker" as Shawn Springs suggested. I do not find this to be a mallicious thing as much as I would label this as a play hard thing. Feel free to rebuke me if you deem necessary, but I believe that it is being blown out of proportion.

Edit: if you consider that .005 percent of the average household income of 40K per year is $200 and roughly 11-22 players chip into the pool it would be an average man's bet of 5-10 dollars. Kick in the fines and penalties that were allocated to these payouts and respectively it wasn't much at all.
The dollar amount really isn't the issue.
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Everything concerning Williams in Washington and Buffalo is alleged. Now you have players speaking out against what Williams has been accused of. Greg Blache says Gregg Williams is guilty in Washington. London Fletcher and Fred Smoot are saying that wasn't the case. Williams has already admitted wrong doing in the N.O. Saints case on the same charges.

Whether he did it or not in Washington and Buffalo doesn't matter because he's been gone from coaching the defense in both of those cities for a while. Roger Goddell still has a decision to make and he's going to protect the image of the NFL to the best of his ability meaning that he could very well make an example of Williams. Williams will get punished, that much is certain. But to what severity is anyone's guess at this point.
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So this pot that Smoot is speaking of, was it kept locked up on the Love Boat?
When i coached we called it the Kitty. Id buy the guys burger, pizza, and ice cream for knock out shots and "Big Sticks" they loved it. I guess ill :FIREdevil for it to. Godspeed Greg Williams Godspeed.
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