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Old 03-03-2012, 12:57 PM   #121
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I remember that game and they went after Peyton pretty good. That's part of football Mr. Dungy.
Wouldn't it be some $h!t if Peyton came to play at the place that started his neck woes because of a pay for lay (the wood) program by Gregg Williams?
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:57 PM   #122
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But they were illegal late hits and the Saints were told to stop but didn't, it's more than just roughing up the QB
It was obvious in that game that New Orleans was trying to get some hits on Farve. Some were legal, some were late. But nothing that was out of line.
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There's a fine line between good hard clean football, and taking things too far.

Paying players to intentionally injure players is taking it over the line. It's amazing that some think that's part of the game, or just football.

It's not.
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It was obvious in that game that New Orleans was trying to get some hits on Farve. Some were legal, some were late. But nothing that was out of line.
How is a late hit not out of line, especially now that we know they were getting paid for knockout shots?
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I believe Gibbs 100%.

He always let his DC run that side of the ball. Plus he would have no reason to lie about it now, and if you know anything about him as a person he would never allow such a thing.
I don't believe him cause he doesn't want us to lose any picks or get in trouble with the league. We're talking about a guy who lost OTA practices cause they were getting too physical. I just find it real hard to believe that he knew NOTHING about it. Besides we're not talking about bounties to hurt a player... a la Buddy Ryan and the Dallas kicker. We're talking about some extra incentive for hits, turnovers and so forth. We'll agree to disagree.
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There's a fine line between good hard clean football, and taking things too far.

Paying players to intentionally injure players is taking it over the line. It's amazing that some think that's part of the game, or just football.

It's not.
But have they with 100% certainty authenticated the claims that the Saints were doing this to intentionally hurt and injury other players? Because a lot of current and former players have come out saying that this kind of thing is league wide and has been for some time but as a motivation for clean hard hits. Matt Bowen was interviewed on SportsCenter earlier and talked all about the Redskins program under Gregg Williams but claimed it was for legal hits.
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I don't believe him cause he doesn't want us to lose any picks or get in trouble with the league. We're talking about a guy who lost OTA practices cause they were getting too physical. I just find it real hard to believe that he knew NOTHING about it. Besides we're not talking about bounties to hurt a player... a la Buddy Ryan and the Dallas kicker. We're talking about some extra incentive for hits, turnovers and so forth. We'll agree to disagree.
The league isn't even looking at penalizing the Redskins 5 years and 2 head coaches later.

Having a physical OTA is not even in the same league as authorizing bounties. You're kidding yourself if you think the bounties didn't involve extra cash for injuring players.
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But have they with 100% certainty authenticated the claims that the Saints were doing this to intentionally hurt and injury other players? Because a lot of current and former players have come out saying that this kind of thing is league wide and has been for some time but as a motivation for clean hard hits. Matt Bowen was interviewed on SportsCenter earlier and talked all about the Redskins program under Gregg Williams but claimed it was for legal hits.
And others have claimed the exact opposite from what Bowen is saying.
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And others have claimed the exact opposite from what Bowen is saying.
So how do they determine what it truth and what is false? It's players words vs other player's words is it not? Where did this story even break from in the first place? I'm not saying this didn't happen, but unless they were stupid enough to write down everything or record it in some fashion, I don't even see how this can be authenticated as fact.
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So how do they determine what it truth and what is false? It's players words vs other player's words is it not? Where did this story even break from in the first place? I'm not saying this didn't happen, but unless they were stupid enough to write down everything or record it in some fashion, I don't even see how this can be authenticated as fact.
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Whether it was bounties for hard but clean hits, or for knockout hits to injure other players. Playing for bounties is against league rules regardless, but it makes a BIG difference if it was meant for legal or illegal hits. If it is for legal hits then the whole league will be fined and suspended. The penalty for the Saints should be a lot different based on the meaning of the program IMO.
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Well here we f*cking go. Ex players need to keep their mouth shut...stop snitchin
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Whether it was bounties for hard but clean hits, or for knockout hits to injure other players. Playing for bounties is against league rules regardless, but it makes a BIG difference if it was meant for legal or illegal hits. If it is for legal hits then the whole league will be fined and suspended. The penalty for the Saints should be a lot different based on the meaning of the program IMO.
They broke the rules, plain and simple, and tried to cover it up. We're arguing semantics at this point.
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They broke the rules, plain and simple, and tried to cover it up. We're arguing semantics at this point.
I understand that. But that's like saying the penalty for rape or murder is the same as assault or petty larceny. Rules can be broken in a more or less severe way. Don't you think that if the program was to intentionally hurt the penalty by the league should be worse than if it was a pay for performance program but with clean hits?
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