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Old 03-03-2012, 10:32 PM   #16
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Re: O-Line Edition: Free Agency and the Draft

i agree we need a RT and an OG. send chester to the bench and brown to the unemployment line.

our line kinda got it together at the very end last year, but a quality tackle would be welcome.

we'd still need to get a QB, #1 WR and a DB (safety and/or #1 CB) first though in order of needs... I think the WR/RT have to be FAs since our draft will either send picks for RGIII or draft a guy claiborne at 6 and a QB in the 2nd round. you can get OG/Cs in the 3rd without too much trouble.
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:38 PM   #17
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C-Lichtensteiger/Montgomery (health issue for Lightensteiger)
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RT-Brown or Smith

I say drafting DeCastro after trading down is the way to go, best G since Steve Hutchinson. Rather have him than drafting a RT since Smith showed he could play. If you guys haven't seen DeCastro pull, I suggest you find a you tube video and watch him in action.

Another reason to draft him is to keep the Cowboys from drafting him, they would have one of the best young OL's if they do. I rather it be the Redskins.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:25 AM   #18
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I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the #1 thing that affects the performance of the O-line is the play of the QB behind it. The same O-line that couldn't keep Jason Campbell upright created huge running lanes and gave Todd Collins all the time he needed to make plays down the field.
I don't remember Todd Collins ever having a good game in the last four seasons.
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I don't remember Todd Collins ever having a good game in the last four seasons.
Is there a point in there somewhere?
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:30 AM   #20
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It's interesting that a lot of teams supposedly talked to Rieff at the combine about playing guard
Were the Skins one of those teams? Only thing I heard about Rieff was his stock has been dropping big time.
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Were the Skins one of those teams? Only thing I heard about Rieff was his stock has been dropping big time.
I don't know
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I would love to improve our oline this offseason. Id prefere to build through the draft but since im in the trade the world for RG3 camp then we will be short on early picks. Luckily shanny likes to generally use mid to late rounders on oline. This draft is actually rather deep at the gaurd position while being weak at tackle. Outside of ziebre sanders in the 2nd i doubt we will be able to find a starting RT in this draft even though i do believe RT is our biggest need. Nate potter in the late 3rd early 4th will need some development at RT but could also play gaurd in the mean time. Potter is also a good zbs fit. Alot of the gaurds in this draft are good zbs fits like kevin zietler 2/3rd, ben jones c/g 2/3rd, lucas nix 4/5th are all guys that i would like to grab if we can try and reaccumulate picks. Adam gettis is small but showed great athleticism at the combine with the fastest 40 and very long jumps, he might be worth a 6/7th round flier even though he could stand to put on a few extra pounds. Finally probably my favorite guy this year will be the already mentioned phillip blake. Again, if we trade up for RG3 then i fully believe drafting the same center he has alteady built a chemistry with the past few years will speed up his development. Before the senior bowl and combine i was hoping to grab him in the 5th round or so but i think his stock might have risen to possibly as high as the 3rx but i think he is safely in the 4th round discussion. He showed alot of athleticism along with power and good technique to not only fit the zbs as a center but even fill in at gaurd if need be. Tell me what you guys think, thanks!!!
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I would love to improve our oline this offseason. Id prefere to build through the draft but since im in the trade the world for RG3 camp then we will be short on early picks. Luckily shanny likes to generally use mid to late rounders on oline. This draft is actually rather deep at the gaurd position while being weak at tackle. Outside of ziebre sanders in the 2nd i doubt we will be able to find a starting RT in this draft even though i do believe RT is our biggest need. Nate potter in the late 3rd early 4th will need some development at RT but could also play gaurd in the mean time. Potter is also a good zbs fit. Alot of the gaurds in this draft are good zbs fits like kevin zietler 2/3rd, ben jones c/g 2/3rd, lucas nix 4/5th are all guys that i would like to grab if we can try and reaccumulate picks. Adam gettis is small but showed great athleticism at the combine with the fastest 40 and very long jumps, he might be worth a 6/7th round flier even though he could stand to put on a few extra pounds. Finally probably my favorite guy this year will be the already mentioned phillip blake. Again, if we trade up for RG3 then i fully believe drafting the same center he has alteady built a chemistry with the past few years will speed up his development. Before the senior bowl and combine i was hoping to grab him in the 5th round or so but i think his stock might have risen to possibly as high as the 3rx but i think he is safely in the 4th round discussion. He showed alot of athleticism along with power and good technique to not only fit the zbs as a center but even fill in at gaurd if need be. Tell me what you guys think, thanks!!!
In bold are the guys I think could be good picks. I think the RT position is pivotal and outside the obvious (which Im not gonna say RUskins) is our greatest need along with WR. If we get Manning, our first round pick MUST be a RT. Philip Blake is the guy I want us to grab mid round as well.
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I'd take David Molk over Phillip Blake.
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I'd take David Molk over Phillip Blake.
is he big enough though to play Guard? I think Shanny gonna want that versatility.
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Is there a point in there somewhere?
Well, sure. The point is that if the O-Line's performance in terms of protecting the quarterback is heavily dependent on who the quarterback is, and the idea is that we've seen this in recent Redskins history, then I would probably not suggest using Todd Collins as an example.

Here is why: Collins was last relevant in 2007, and the offensive line was pretty good in 2007. For Campbell and Collins. Since the offensive line declined, Collins did nothing on a football field to ever suggest he was the missing link in the Redskins pass protection.

I mean, really nothing. We're talking about like 25 pass attempts or something with a couple of awful sacks and fumbles. By Todd Collins. In mop up.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story, I guess is the lesson here.
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Old 03-11-2012, 05:34 AM   #28
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Nicks is a wall. I'd sign him in heartbeat as we prepare to bring in a rookie hoping he develops. How does a DOMINANT blocker not fit out system?
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Nicks is a wall. I'd sign him in heartbeat as we prepare to bring in a rookie hoping he develops. How does a DOMINANT blocker not fit out system?
I agree. I really don't care if Nicks doesn't fit your system. He's the best out there and we need some studs on the o-line. I'd sign him before I'd sign Jackson.
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I agree. I really don't care if Nicks doesn't fit your system. He's the best out there and we need some studs on the o-line. I'd sign him before I'd sign Jackson.
As Matty stated, Shanahan isn't going to drop that kind of coin on a guard. Same thing with Meyers (C) in that we aren't going to give a interior OL a 8mil/year contract.
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