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Old 03-18-2012, 09:36 PM   #121
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I think that everyone is forgetting, we have three RT candidates on our roster now. Tyler did a pretty good job for us, in the games he played in. He is also 27 this year. Willie Smith also did a good job. I think in the four games the were in, they gave up 12 sacks. 2 a game. That was pretty good considering they played the best pass rushers in the game. Not to mention, we are paying a guy 6 million dollars this year that is on the roster. If he is finally healthy, he could be the answer.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:14 PM   #122
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I think that everyone is forgetting, we have three RT candidates on our roster now...
See post #123
We know there are inhouse candidates but I would hope the FO aims for a more certain solution and upgrade at the RT position.
Afterall we have our franchise QB to protect.
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Still holding out hope Brown can get back to form. If not we have some decent depth behind him.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:47 PM   #124
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What the Redskins need is a couple of young C/G prospects. Sign a couple low level free agents and Drft one. I like Mo Hurt, I hope he continues to improve and another gaurd to replace Cook. I also, believe that Brown can have a good season. I like where the line is and think we are in good position to build it thru the draft.
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Hurt is definitely an intriguing prospect to keep an eye on. I'd be surprised if we don't draft another lineman or two this year.
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Hurt is definitely an intriguing prospect to keep an eye on. I'd be surprised if we don't draft another lineman or two this year.
I don't know why but I have this ominous feeling of us drafting a CB or a LB with our 3rd round pick this year. Maybe even a TE.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:15 PM   #127
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I don't know why but I have this ominous feeling of us drafting a CB or a LB with our 3rd round pick this year. Maybe even a TE.
Nah, Kicker.
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Nah, Kicker.
lol there is that Punter from LSU
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:36 PM   #129
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I don't know why but I have this ominous feeling of us drafting a CB or a LB with our 3rd round pick this year. Maybe even a TE.


Dwight Bentley?, Mychael Kendricks?, LaDarius Green?
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:39 PM   #131
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How do we know the plan isn't to draft a RT in the 3RD?
I thought we determined we traded up for kalil?
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:26 AM   #132
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Carriker's contract was market value, and essentially boils down to about 1 year/4 million or 2 years/7 million. That's a starters salary, and Carriker is more of a priority backup in both skill and on our depth chart, but it's a team-friendly contract. Team friendly (when I use it) basically just asks two questions: 1) can the team get away from the contract one year in without significant cap implication, and 2) are there enough cheap years on the back end where the team might actually want to hold onto the player at the terms agreed upon. In Carriker's case, the answer to both questions is yes (although he holds an option to get out of the contract after one year).

Garcon's contract was market value as well, but the Redskins bought in a sellers market, and bought an asset that was priced like a top receiver (like Sidney Rice a year before), despite the obvious difference that Garcon has never played like Sidney Rice did in 2009.

If you can stomach it, you can look and see what Seattle got for their investment in a no. 1 receiver a year ago:

Sidney Rice NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

And keep in mind that Garcon has not yet proved he can perform at that level, although he also hasn't missed significant time with injury.

The way the receiver market is these days, you have to be able to draft and develop, or you need to be able to pluck good ones in trades (like we did with Gaffney). You can't use the free agent market. It's just pissing your cap dollars into the sewer.

That goes for Tampa Bay and Jacksonville as well, obviously.
Pretty astute observation IMO. Every SB team going back to 2002 fits the bolded, with the probable exception in Tampa (2003).
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:41 AM   #133
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what I have been pondering since FA started and our lack of attention to the line is:

What if after reviewing the tape the coaches we happy with the opportunities created by the line? 5 of 6 games to end the year we had a 100yard rusher, I cant remember the last time we ran that well over that many games (the playoff run when Portis stepped up?). This to me is the first real sign that our offense is starting to click....could we be approaching the fabled continuity?

What if they were very unhappy with how the skill players took advantage of those opportunites?

I think you would have an off season that looks not different that this. I still think we will address the line, but maybe not the total revamp a lot of folks are calling for. This line of thinking also reduces the suprise if TW is traded for draft position.
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well, randy moss was 300% as productive with tom brady vs w/ with oakland had... if you have a great QB, any WR is going to look a lot better. RGIII is going to have a lot of say in whether garcon is looked back upon as a good or bad signing.
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well, randy moss was 300% as productive with tom brady vs w/ with oakland had... if you have a great QB, any WR is going to look a lot better. RGIII is going to have a lot of say in whether garcon is looked back upon as a good or bad signing.
Exactly. If I had to put a number on it I'd say that for most receivers the QB and play calling is at least 50% responsible for a receivers production. Most likely even more then that. You can have a receiver with all the talent in the world but unless he has a good QB and an offensive system that allows him to get open theres a good chance of said receiver underacheiving. Only the Calvin Johnson's of the world can make anyone look good and they are very very very very very VERY few and far between.

With Griffin at the healm we might find that we're going from "all the receivers we get end up sucking" to "man receivers are a dime a dozen."
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