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Old 02-02-2005, 10:17 PM   #1
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Will the Washington Redskins be looking to draft an offensive lineman, clearly a weakness from last year, or might they go for a wide receiver like Mark Clayton of Oklahoma or Braylon Edwards or Michigan?
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KIPER -- Washington's main need along the offensive line is at center. The Redskins need a big, physical anchor to take on all those huge defensive tackles, and if they can't get one through free agency they might look at Michigan's David Baas, a former guard who moved to center. He is not tremendously athletic, but Baas is a big street fighter with strength and a mean streak. He would make a lot of sense with Washington's third-round pick, but he will likely be off the board in the second round and the 'Skins don't pick in that round.

So, trading down just a bit,would allow them to move to the No. 12-13 area in the first round, get a second-rounder to use on Baas and still allow Washington to go after a quality wideout early. That may be a little early for Clayton and Edwards might be off the board already, but there is plenty of talent to choose from, including South Carolina's Troy Williamson. Third in line among the Redskins' needs is a defensive end.
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Old 02-03-2005, 09:36 AM   #2
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I keep hearing about this kid Williamson. I wish someone here could tell us a little more about him. Did anyone see this guy in a game?
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Old 02-03-2005, 09:56 AM   #3
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I keep hearing about this kid Williamson. I wish someone here could tell us a little more about him. Did anyone see this guy in a game?
Didn't see him in a game. The only thing I've heard is that he excelled in a run-oriented offense. Plus, the SEC is arguably the best conference in college football, so he frequently faced stiff competition.

Just the mere mention of Braylon Edwards' propensity to drop catchable passes turns me off. We're trying to get rid of a player just like that in Rod Gardner. Mike Williams will most likely be gone, but even if he's still there, he not known for great speed, which is more of what we need.

Early indications tell me that Williamson could be the way to go.

Still, I really just wish we could make do with Coles, Thrash, Jacobs, and McCants and concentrate on the offensive line. Somehow though, I don't think that wideout corps will be able to do the job. And I'd hate to be in the same position next season when we need to pick up 25 or 30 yards through the air, but can't.
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:16 AM   #4
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Beemn - I wouldn't be suprised if Williamson gets taken over Williams. The combine will show a lot. If Williams is big, fat, and slow - which he certainly could be, then he'll fall way down. He's Byron Chamberlain II.

Beemn - our O line isn't THAT bad. Thomas, Samuels, and Jansen are great. Dockery needs some work, but we do need a center. Give Dockery, and the rest of the guys, a little time. Dockery made some really big plays this year. About as many as he gave up, he's shown enough to stay, in my opinion (also, let's check his cap numbers...) I agree Jacobs needs more play time.
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:24 AM   #5
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I really like the scenario that Kiper layed out
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:26 AM   #6
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Beemn - our O line isn't THAT bad. Thomas, Samuels, and Jansen are great. Dockery needs some work, but we do need a center. Give Dockery, and the rest of the guys, a little time. Dockery made some really big plays this year. About as many as he gave up, he's shown enough to stay, in my opinion (also, let's check his cap numbers...) I agree Jacobs needs more play time.
I agree about the O-line. I've said before that Dockery could be another Ed Simmons. He struggled early in his career, and just needed a few seasons to get into a groove. Later, Simmons became a dominant right tackle. This is the year Dockery needs to establish himself into the guard everyone says he can be. If not, he's backup material at best, another Brad Badger.

I just don't see any team using a #9 pick on a center. Even thought that's the most glaring need.

Our O-line seems to be on the verge of being among the top-tier lines in the league. It appears that we could use one more player of Jansen's, Thomas' and Samuels capability -- In addition to staying injury free. That's the wild card, and that's why I place offensive linemen as a top priority this year.

By the way, who's Byron Chamberlain? Wasn't he a tight end?
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Yep, a TE with all the talent in the world, made the pro bowl once, now can't keep his face out of a bag of Cheetos.
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I, too, am hearing all sorts of things about this Willamson. I've read some scouting reports on him and I think he MIGHT be a good 1st round pick if no one else is available.
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I like Kiper's idea of trading down for more draft picks. We do need a big, mean dude at center who will maul people at the point of attack more than we need a receiver. If nothing else, we could use that second 1st round pick on a receiver who will challenge Thrash, Jacobs, and McCants. I think McCants has yet to reach his full potential; he could end up being an awesome #3 wideout. I like Jacobs's big play potential (is he the next Ricky Sanders?). Thrash is no longer starting material, but he's a valuable asset on special teams and, more importantly, a team player and locker room leader.
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Since I am a Georgia fan we faced SC this year like every year. He had a couple of great catches. Flew off the line so he has tremendous speed. I only saw him once this year so I do not have much to base him off of.
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So you think we should take a CENTER with our #1 pick???? I don't know about that. As far as the Redskins and their talents are concerned, the area that could best be addressed by a first round pick would be WR or DE.
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Not only are people saying it here, I've heard it on more than one board/website that Williams IS Keyshawn reborn and that Edwards might be a risky pick and could go either way (playmaker or bust).
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Old 02-03-2005, 02:27 PM   #13
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That would be an excellent scenario. Thanks for clearing that up. My eyeballs get burnt out sometimes looking at computer screens all day.
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Very true. The more opinions/evidence that piles up from so-called "knowledgable" sources is what makes me nervous about the aforementioned two receivers. T.J. might be a good fit. Part of me feels that once we get the line problems taken care of with the help of Bugel and an upgrade at center, Ramsey has the talent to make nearly any receiver look pretty damn good. At least we can all hope.
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No one's saying that we draft a C in the first round. Kiper is painting a scenario in which the 'Skins will trade down from #9 overall for possibly a late first rounder and a 2nd or 3rd rounder. And quite possibly that would allow us to draft one of the four WRs mentioned above in the first round and Baas in the second.
Yeah, I understand. I just wonder what team is going to give up a second rounder in order to move up to #9. Usually, the top 4-6 picks offer the most value for a trade down. It all depends on what player is still available at the ninth spot, and if there's a team out there who really covets that player. If by moving down we can still pick up one of the top 4 wideouts, (among Clayton, Edwards, Williams and Williamson) while picking up a second rounder, I'd certainly take them up on that offer.

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If nothing else, we could use that second 1st round pick on a receiver who will challenge Thrash, Jacobs, and McCants.
I don't think anyone has two first round picks other than Dallas. And they aren't giving anything up to us.
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