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Old 03-07-2012, 08:06 AM   #151
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My understanding is that he can be signed as soon as he is cut (today), correct?

We need to make this happen.
Doesn't he become a free agent then has to wait for free agency to begin? I have no idea that was just my understanding.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:07 AM   #152
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Doesn't he become a free agent then has to wait for free agency to begin? I have no idea that was just my understanding.
But he is a free agent because he is being cut, not because his contract is expiring. I think that is different, but I could be wrong.
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He's a free agent right away
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He's a free agent right away
Great. The Skins need to make this happen.

I will order my Manning 18 Jersey tomorrow, I promise.

Although, does anyone think that since his neck problems seem to have started with two Redskins hitting him (possibly in a "bounty" situation) that Manning might not want to come here?
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He's a free agent right away
So what is the point of waiting for free agency to start? We should just start signing everyone.
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Great. The Skins need to make this happen.

I will order my Manning 18 Jersey tomorrow, I promise.

Although, does anyone think that since his neck problems seem to have started with two Redskins hitting him (possibly in a "bounty" situation) that Manning might not want to come here?
That was my thought when I saw that replay on Monday...but then I remembered Peyton is the consummate professional and wont let something like that effect his decision.
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So what is the point of waiting for free agency to start? We should just start signing everyone.
No, he's different because he's being released of his contract. The other free agents don't have their contracts officially expire until next week.
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I see. I think right now I'll handicap it

1. Cardinals
2. Redskins
3. Jets
4. Dolphins
5. Seahawks
6. Chiefs
1. Cardinals (Most likely:Indoor stadium, warm weather good for getting loose, L. Fitz, has a history of bringing in vet QB's like K. Warner, went 8-8 last year with pathetic QB play)
2. Dolphins (Likely: Owner wants a big name, has a good defense/WR's in place)
3. Seahawks (Maybe likely: Rumored to be willing to put a big package together)
4. Redskins (Possible: Maybe interested but still has equal interest in drafting RG3)
5. Chiefs (Less likely:Has a need at QB and some pieces to put around Manning)
6. Jets (Unlikely:Tough salary cap number, would overshadow 'lil bro, would have to cut Sanchez to sign Manning)
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No, he's different because he's being released of his contract. The other free agents don't have their contracts officially expire until next week.
Ok that makes sense, thank you.
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If we sign Manning I'll withhold judgement and feelings until after free agency and the draft. If we make the move to bring in PM and a Tannehill or Cousins then I think it's a solid football move. If we don't draft a QB of the future in the top 2 rounds then it's a dumb short sighted only move.

I'm still of the belief that he ends up in AZ or Miami and we make the move for RGIII.
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I think the primary plan is still to move up for RGIII, but the pressure is definitely on to make that deal happen soon. If they can't get it done PM is the fallback option.
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1. At 4pm, sign Peyton Manning.
2. Trade for the #2 Pick and draft RGIII and let him learn from a master (he said he would be willing to sit behind Manning - of course he was talking about in Indy)
3. Use free agency to load up on help for Peyton. We have plenty of cap space.

We make a short term push with Peyton, and set up our future with RGIII. I think that, year one with Peyton, we win the NFC East.
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well same thing with signing manning

positives
+ he's one of the greatest QB's of all time
+ he's better than what we have now at QB

negatives
- he could be hit right in the neck and never play a down of football again or even be paralyzed.
- hes been in one offense his whole life
- hes had some great skill players around him in Indy
- he isn't mobile getting out of the pocket/he doesn't fit the mike shanahan zone blocking bootleg offense
- he is at the end of his career
- he wants $$$ and he knows we pay.
- we are out of the draft for a potential franchise QB like RG3

Guys it will be a blessing in disguise when Peyton doesn't sign here, trust me.
First of all, your first negative is not a valid point. On more than one occasion, a doctor has already came out to say that Peyton Manning has no more of a chance in getting a career ending injury as any of the other players on the field. The only issue was him getting his throwing strength back, and obviously that is coming back rather quickly.

Secondly, any team that picks Manning up is going to obviously have to tweak their offense to what Peyton Manning was doing in Indy. The Redskins offense is more of a vertical offense than what people think it is. Which brings me to my next point. How mobile was Rex Grossman? Not very. And he was able to run the offense (despite his charitable style of playing.) I don't put that much emphasis on being a mobile QB, but a quarterback than can scramble while still looking to complete a pass down field. Peyton can still do the latter, he doesn't have to be a Mike Vick. Next, I do seem to remember an article (and don't ask me where it is at this point) where it sounded as if Manning would be willing to work for an incentive based contract. We even had a decision about the pros and cons to that here a few months ago. Lastly, the Redskins or any other team SHOULD draft a developmental QB in waiting. So, even if that team only got two good seasons out of Manning, they would have a quarterback to step in and lead the team.

It really all comes down to how much it would cost to bring Manning in. If the emphasis is on an incentive based contract that works in the favor of both the team and the player, and the Redskins are still able to draft a Tannehill or Cousins (Cousins is probably more likely in this scenario) then I believe it costs us less. Certainly the Redskins would be able to keep their draft picks and continue building a solid team since they would have the luxury of an instant franchise QB. This is MUCH different from McNabb. McNabb was washed up by the time the 'skins picked him up. Manning does still have a few very good years left.

In my opinion, however, I think this might just be a ploy to show the Rams that the Redskins have options and will not settle on giving up such a high price for RGIII. I believe in the end, the Redskins still move up to draft RGIII, but don't give up as much to do so.
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