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Old 03-07-2012, 08:18 PM   #376
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Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)

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Manning today is only 35, on March 24th I believe, he will be 36. You could be looking at 5 solid years of play for PM. I want the guy in the B&G for all of those possible years.

There are many on this site that are so sold on RGIII that I don't believe they realize that if he does not work out, that move will have set this franchise back another 5 years.

Give me the QB who comes with less risk and the upside is a winning team again. We have not had a winning season since Gibbs last year in 07. I want to root for a winner again.
THAT is the other side of the coin. As you point out, there are no sure things. High risk....high reward?
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:30 PM   #377
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Smoot, any inside word on where we stand in the Manning sweepstakes??
As far as his interest in us? No
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:38 PM   #378
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THAT is the other side of the coin. As you point out, there are no sure things. High risk....high reward?
It is possible. There are plenty of reasons to believe that RGIII is perfect for us, but we have to give away so much for this kid. I just don't think we are in a position to give away two firsts and still build this team. AND if he is a bust well...... I guess there won't be much joy in ol DC any time soon.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:51 PM   #379
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We know the doctor gave Manning clearance to play. However, we don't know about his arm strength. Assuming his arm strength is okay, we don't have the offensive line to protect him or a great group of receivers. I also don't have a good feeling that Peyton would want to come to DC with all the losing that's gone on here for years. Maybe Shanahan would make a difference - Manning might like to play for him. It's so tempting to go out and get Peyton Manning but there seems to be an awful lot of obstacles.....including the fact that so many other teams are in competition with us.

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We know the doctor gave Manning clearance to play. However, we don't know about his arm strength. Assuming his arm strength is okay, we don't have the offensive line to protect him or a great group of receivers. I also don't have a good feeling that Peyton would want to come to DC with all the losing that's gone on here for years. Maybe Shanahan would make a difference. It's so tempting to go out and get Peyton Manning but there seems to be an awful lot of obstacles.....including the fact that so many other teams are in competition with us.
There's a thread here somewhere about how he was recorded at Duke University throwing 35+ yard passes since his surgery. I didn't read the thread too much or check out the video so I don't know how legitimate it was.
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There's a thread here somewhere about how he was recorded at Duke University throwing 35+ yard passes since his surgery. I didn't read the thread too much or check out the video so I don't know how legitimate it was.
The video is legit (according to Mort)
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Haven't we been down this dog and pony show before? Why do fans always fall for this short term fix? I don't even see why Manning would come here. His RT and best TE are one puff away from being done. No wr's. Shaky o-line. I just don't see him coming here.
While I agree with not going after the short term fix according to Mike Jones the Redskins will basically tell Peyton that they'll be able to fix those problems through free agency and possibly the draft.

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The Redskins are expected to tell Manning of their plan to spend freely during free agency. With more than $40 million of cap space to work with, not only could Washington afford Manning, but the team also is expected to aggressively pursue an elite receiver – Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston and Pierre Garcon are expected targets – according to people familiar with the Redskins’ plans.

The Redskins also plan on bolstering their offensive line. They’re likely to add a right tackle this offseason, and could add a guard as well.
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Why do some people assume that signing Manning is a short term fix?

We can continue with whatever plan the FO has to rebuild the team.

Peyton Manning just accelerates and elevates the quality of QB play and allows time to groom/try out several different QBs of the future while Peyton plays for 2-3 or more years.
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The Redskins are expected to tell Manning of their plan to spend freely during free agency. With more than $40 million of cap space to work with, not only could Washington afford Manning, but the team also is expected to aggressively pursue an elite receiver – Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston and Pierre Garcon are expected targets – according to people familiar with the Redskins’ plans.

The Redskins also plan on bolstering their offensive line. They’re likely to add a right tackle this offseason, and could add a guard as well.
We better not get Colston or Garcon. Garcon can't be relied on to catch the ball and is rather unproven where as Colston is a rich mans Gaffney.

If we break the bank on a #1 wide receiver, get a legitimate one.
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LOL at people doubting Peyton Manning as a possible Redskin starting QB.

1. RG3 is very intriguing but he has won 0 THAT IS ZERO NFL games
2. we are talking arguably the best NFL QB ever
3. who cares if its a 2 year fix, would you like to go 6-10 the next 2 seasons?
4. he would not play if he thought he could get injured permanently
5. this is not a money motivated move for him

I can't believe I am saying this, but I want the old Danny boy running the show on this negotiation.
Manning's not going to go to the highest bidder. He's going to go to the best situation. We're not even close to being in the running. Cards, Fins, Broncos, Jets and even Seattle are all more attractive options. No chance he wants to play in the NFC East.
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We better not get Colston or Garcon. Garcon can't be relied on to catch the ball and is rather unproven where as Colston is a rich mans Gaffney.

If we break the bank on a #1 wide receiver, get a legitimate one.
If we get Manning, why not make a play for Blackmon at #6?
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Manning's not going to go to the highest bidder. He's going to go to the best situation. We're not even close to being in the running. Cards, Fins, Broncos, Jets and even Seattle are all more attractive options. No chance he wants to play in the NFC East.
How do you know this???

PM himself was quoted as saying he hasn't even thought about where he would end up playing....
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if we get manning, why not make a play for blackmon at #6?
BINGO, you can add a vet and the best WR in the draft.
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How do you know this???

PM himself was quoted as saying he hasn't even thought about where he would end up playing....
LOL. Really? No way that's true.
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[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;893348]While I agree with not going after the short term fix according to Mike Jones the Redskins will basically tell Peyton that they'll be able to fix those problems through free agency and possibly the draft.[/QUOTE

My POV comes from a thinking that signing PM is not a short term fix. It may be a short term fix to the QB position, but on the other hand if we get 4 or 5 solid years out of him then it really isn't that short as an average NFL career is 3 years.

Signing Peyton, gives us options in the draft. This is a deep draft and we can get some players out of this draft. We can grab a QB at some point ( by that I mean anywhere we please in the 1st to 7th round). We can trade back with our 6th pick and this would give the team more of a chance on hitting on some players. With more younger players we increase the chances of gaining quality players for this team.

Trading away the top picks in the next two drafts and 2 other picks for one guy who may be great, good, average, or just plain Ryan Leaf just doesn't seem really smart for a long term fix.
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