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Old 03-08-2012, 04:45 PM   #601
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Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)

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Lot of people seem to be saying Vincent Jackson will be one of the first FAs we bring in. I'm not sure.

Wouldn't surprise me if a trade is made on Monday, especially if Manning does make his decision on Monday. If we're able to hold firm and not move our #2 to get RG3 that would be outstanding.

Still hearing that Manning has not ruled the Redskins out, but Dolphins are pretty much in the driver's seat.
Who do you think we would trade for on Monday? Or at least what position?
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Didn't Doug Flutie do that first?
All of Flutie's passes were jump passes because he was only 2'6" tall.
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That contradicts everything I've heard. All indications are that we are willing to give up our first this year and next year, but we are not willing to give up our first and second this year.
Yea..... That's kinda what I thought I said. What I heard the Browns want

2012: 1st, 2nd, 3rd.
2013: 1st, and either 3rd or 4th.

The Skins balked because they frowned on giving up the 2nd round pick which they hope to pick up a draft pick in. Unless the Browns lower their standards I just don't foresee RGIII here.
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Just meant a Rams trade in general (though most would assume it's with the Redskins).

I don't think (my opinion) losing Manning would compel the Redskins to up their offer for RG3. They know the Rams desperately want out of there. If they won't budge, we'll just to talk to Minnesota or take Tannehill at 6.
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The Skins are not willing to give up their two 1st round picks because they would like to use the 2nd round pick for support. The Browns can give up one 1st round pick and their 2nd round pick this year and still have a 1st round pick for support.

I think they won't have a problem with that. We lose again. Have a nice day.

We'll have Flynn/Tannehill, Cousins, or Weeden.
Hard to argue w/ this logic.
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Yea..... That's kinda what I thought I said. What I heard the Browns want

2012: 1st, 2nd, 3rd.
2013: 1st, and either 3rd or 4th.

The Skins balked because they frowned on giving up the 2nd round pick which they hope to pick up a draft pick in. Unless the Browns lower their standards I just don't foresee RGIII here.
Don't you mean what the Rams want?

/ok I'll stop. Seriously if we're the only bidder I could see Eli Manning type compensation here, meaning our 1st this year, and our 1st, 3rd, and a player next year.
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I don't know what his top 3 is, if he even has one. That said, I know there are reports out there that he's said no to us and that is not what I've heard at all. We're very much in it, but again (think I mentioned this before) we're not really intending to negotiate. We have a "take it or leave it" offer in mind.

Rumor is a decision will be made by Manning on Monday. We'll see.
Could "take it or leave it" mean match any other offer?!
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Not from what I hear. Our offer has no guarantees, Miami's apparently does.
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Not from what I hear. Our offer has not guarantees, Miami's apparently does.
No guarantees sounds like a deal breaker.
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here what the NFL network says.

NFL.com news: Report: Redskins already out on Peyton Manning chase
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In don't see PM here now, especially after our offer isn't guaranteed.
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Don't you mean what the Rams want?

/ok I'll stop. Seriously if we're the only bidder I could see Eli Manning type compensation here, meaning our 1st this year, and our 1st, 3rd, and a player next year.
Yeah sorry the Rams.
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No guarantees sounds like a deal breaker.
Yeah, no guarantees is not trying too hard.
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Wow! Breaking news
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What does the life span of a doctor have to do with his/her prognosis on a patient? I don't see the correlation.

Secondly, it would be medically irresponsible for doctors to come out and say that Peyton Manning's healed neck is in no more danger of a career ending/life changing injury than anybody else on the field if that wasn't the case.

Lastly, Manning hasn't been injury prone. He had neck surgeries to repair those issues, but until then, had never missed a game. I don't call that injury prone.

I do agree that chances are, Manning is probably not going to be 100% this season. But as we have all said and agree, 60% of Peyton Manning is better than most NFL quarterbacks in the league right now. Certainly better than Rex Grossman and John Beck.
The correlation is doctors are not always correct. And lots of them get sued for malpractice everyday. Having surgery must happen at times in life. But surgery slows people down. People need to have adequate time to heal from surgery. This is why Peyton Manning is not 100% and he won't be even by the start of next season. Now that he's had the surgery, he's more prone to having a career ending injury. Sure he can play. Sure he can compete. But what's going to happen when nasty James Harrison collides his helmet to Manning's like some crazy charging rhino? Manning is going to suffer for the hit. And seeing that he's not one hundred percent healthy, he could be paralyzed. And you're correct. Peyton Manning has never been prone to injury. But he is now. 60% of Manning is worse than any quarterback in the NFL. At 60%, he should be holding a clipboard on the sidelines. I'm just happy that he doesn't want to come to Washington. We didn't need him anyway.
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