Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Redskins Locker Room


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-26-2012, 11:43 PM   #241
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 28
Posts: 16,632
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
I don't see how you can look at pre-draft Luck vs. Newton and say Newton is superior but to each his own. I will say I think RG3 vs "Killa" Cam will be a next generation QB rivalry a la Manning vs Brady.
Sky is the limit for CAM, he's one of the most talented QBs thats ever came around, as for RGIII vs Luck? I think both are going to be good to great for years to come
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline  

Advertisements
Old 03-26-2012, 11:49 PM   #242
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 26
Posts: 12,461
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Sky's the limit for Cam, Luck, and Griffin.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  
Old 03-26-2012, 11:54 PM   #243
The Starter
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,108
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
I don't see how you can look at pre-draft Luck vs. Newton and say Newton is superior but to each his own.
Likewise.
Elite arm talent, velocity, deep ball, throwing motion.
Elite size, build, durability, athleticism, speed, playmaking.
Leadership, charisma, work ethic, coachability.

Question:
Do you think Luck is gonna have as good a rookie year as Newton?
__________________
No longer were NFL coaches dealing inflexibly with spread [QBs] in ways that caused stunted development for players like [A. Smith and Vick] now, the idea is to bring what the quarterback can do, and what he should do, together as an organic whole
30gut is offline  
Old 03-26-2012, 11:58 PM   #244
The Starter
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,108
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Ranking the 2012 Free Agents: Offensive Tackles | ProFootballFocus.com
Quote:
Ranking the 2012 Free Agents: Offensive Tackles

2) Demetrius Bell, Buffalo Bills

Age as of 1st September, 2012: 28

2011 Grade: +6.8

Key Stat: Allowed pressure only once every 28 pass plays in 2011, up from 13.6 in 2010.

Behind the Number: Playing under a restricted free agent tag in 2011, Bell looked to be putting together the classic “contract season” performance until it was curtailed by injury. To his credit, Bell didn’t slip into poor performances of the past in a three-game stint at the end of the season, but is 401 snaps of true quality enough for a team to invest in him long term? Bell was Jason Peters’ replacement after he bolted for Philadelphia, but he was slow to repay the Bills’ faith in him. He has taken large strides since his first season as a starter in 2009 drastically reducing his pressures allowed and penalties conceded through 2010 and 2011. Another big stride in 2012 would see Bell join the league’s Top 10 left tackles. If multiple teams see that as a real possibility Bell’s market value could rise when free agency opens.
Please, please, please.....
__________________
No longer were NFL coaches dealing inflexibly with spread [QBs] in ways that caused stunted development for players like [A. Smith and Vick] now, the idea is to bring what the quarterback can do, and what he should do, together as an organic whole
30gut is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 12:01 AM   #245
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 26
Posts: 12,461
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by 30gut View Post
Likewise.

Elite arm talent, velocity, deep ball, throwing motion.

Elite size, build, durability, athleticism, speed, playmaking.

Leadership, charisma, work ethic, coachability.



Question:

Do you think Luck is gonna have as good a rookie year as Newton?


No. Cam's rookie season stats wise was nothing short of a virtuoso performance. I can only compare it to the way Big Ben hit the scene. I think Griffin will have the better rookie season but the three of these guys will be NFL faces for their careers. My predictions for rookie seasons:

Luck 3,300 yards 20 TDs 14 Ints 3 rush TDs (5-11)
Griffin 3,500 yards 20 TDs 12 Ints 7 rush TDs (9-7)

Griffin, as with Newton will have the better supporting cast but neither will hit Newton's 4,000 rookie record.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 12:03 AM   #246
Franchise Player
 
SFREDSKIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 8,163
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
No. Cam's rookie season stats wise was nothing short of a virtuoso performance. I can only compare it to the way Big Ben hit the scene. I think Griffin will have the better rookie season but the three of these guys will be NFL faces for their careers. My predictions for rookie seasons:

Luck 3,300 yards 20 TDs 14 Ints 3 rush TDs (5-11)
Griffin 3,500 yards 20 TDs 12 Ints 7 rush TDs (9-7)

Griffin, as with Newton will have the better supporting cast but neither will hit Newton's 4,000 rookie record.
Luck doesn't throw INT's, i say less than 10 interceptions.
__________________
Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs.

Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory.

Darrell Green- Best DB ever.


Purveyor of fine Filth
SFREDSKIN is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 12:09 AM   #247
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 26
Posts: 12,461
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

^ He's a rookie. He'll throw 10. Hell he threw 10 interceptions THIS year.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 12:13 AM   #248
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 28
Posts: 16,632
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN View Post
Luck doesn't throw INT's, i say less than 10 interceptions.

Actually I think Luck will have around 15 Td passes and 12 Ints or so.. I can see RG3 at around 25 Total Td's because he can run for 5-7 or maybe more.
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 12:13 AM   #249
Impact Rookie
 
ethat001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 767
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever View Post
Although I have my preference for Robert Griffin III, I'm with you. I wouldn't mind drafting Andrew Luck either. I saw both of these young men play last year and they both were the best in the nation playing the quarterback position. Jim Irsay has a decision to make. If he opts to take RG3 then I'll be disappointed, but I'll also be very elated for the Redskins to land the young quarterback out of Stanford.
Seriously. Why is this even a discussion? If by chance the Colts somehow magically decide to take RG3, we should be ECSTATIC. Most of us have been DYING to get Luck for the past 2 years, and now he's our second option and a let-down? We should feel comfortable with either in our system, and rest assured we have landed a top caliber prospect at QB.

Seems that ppl have fallen in love with the idea of RG3, partly because RG3's personality seems more magnetic. He's such a marketable prospect that would light up the big stage of Washington DC with his socks alone.
ethat001 is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 12:13 AM   #250
Franchise Player
 
SFREDSKIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 8,163
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
^ He's a rookie. He'll throw 10. Hell he threw 10 interceptions THIS year.
He's not your typical rookie, neither is Griffin who also has a low INT ratio.
__________________
Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs.

Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory.

Darrell Green- Best DB ever.


Purveyor of fine Filth
SFREDSKIN is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 12:17 AM   #251
The Starter
 
REDSKINS4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York, New York
Posts: 2,249
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
^ He's a rookie. He'll throw 10. Hell he threw 10 interceptions THIS year.
Both Griffin and Luck are no longer facing NCAA defenses. They are ready to step into the NFL where defenses are much more advanced and where defensive players are much more elite. Both of them will have their fair share of INTs. If Luck threw only 10 at Stanford last year, then he'll toss at least 15 picks as a rookie this year. RG3 only threw six picks last year at Baylor. But look for that number to climb to 12 to 14 in his rookie season. Both of these quarterbacks did an excellent job of protecting the football on the collegiate level last year. But the NFL is not the collegiate level.
REDSKINS4ever is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 12:31 AM   #252
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 26
Posts: 12,461
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN View Post
He's not your typical rookie, neither is Griffin who also has a low INT ratio.



True but for either of them to come in and throw 20TDs and lets say 6 Ints would be some magical stuff.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 01:09 AM   #253
Living Legend
 
Ruhskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 16,651
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

As talented as Luck is, he has no talent whatsoever around him...except maybe Reggie Wayne. The Colts have no running game, their o-line stinks, and so does their defense. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with such a meh roster.
__________________
R.I.P. #21

New words created on The Warpath:
Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory
Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota
Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual
Stroried - Agianst

"Give an opinion and move on. Your life doesn't depend on winning the internet." -FRPLG
Ruhskins is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 01:27 AM   #254
Living Legend
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms)
Age: 28
Posts: 16,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruhskins View Post
As talented as Luck is, he has no talent whatsoever around him...except maybe Reggie Wayne. The Colts have no running game, their o-line stinks, and so does their defense. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with such a meh roster.
Sam has the same problem in stl so let's see if luck is really that much better
__________________
THUNDER UP

"if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

skinsfaninok is offline  
Old 03-27-2012, 01:45 AM   #255
Living Legend
 
Ruhskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 16,651
Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
Sam has the same problem in stl so let's see if luck is really that much better
Yeah but at least Bradford had Stephen Jackson in St. Louis. Granted that he wasn't in his prime, but he is much better than any RB currently in the Colts roster. I'll be curious to see how Bradford does if he gets a #1 WR.
__________________
R.I.P. #21

New words created on The Warpath:
Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory
Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota
Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual
Stroried - Agianst

"Give an opinion and move on. Your life doesn't depend on winning the internet." -FRPLG
Ruhskins is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.36701 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25