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| The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft Didn't Pierre Garcon just have his most productive season without Manning? |
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| | #92 |
| Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft I like VJ too, but I'm worried that if we pay him big bucks he'll be another brandon lloyd. When/if we sign VJ we better put in his contract that if he gets caught drinking and driving we don't owe him anything and can cut him immediately.
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| | #93 |
| Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26
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| Team was bad but garcon was not
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| | #94 |
| Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Richmond, VA
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft I don't know... Curtis Painter is pretty good |
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| I like big (_|_)s. ![]() Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft Quote:
I don't think anyone can say that Garcon is going to be your featured guy. Can he help some? Sure. Gaffney helped. We need someone so explosive that they are constantly double-covered.
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| Naega jeil jal naga ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft After which PFT will run a story on tampering in regards to the Skins and VJAX. By the way when was the last tampering case in the NFL that resulted in anything?
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| | #97 |
| Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 29
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft Id rather take the money that Vincent Jackson would require and sign Royal and Mecheam instead.
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| | #98 |
| What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft We need to build around RGIII We have anywhere from 35-40mil in cap space. Resign Tim Hightower Sign Vincent Jackson or Pierre Garcon or Braylon Edwards (if healthy) Sign Eddie Royal, Maybe bring back Devin Thomas (lol) we need weapons, youth players that can run and get open, make the catch. In the draft I am looking at Ryan Broyles and Juron Criner. Rebuild the line. We have to be able to effectively run and protect against the pass. Free agent number 1 should be either Carl Nicks or Ben Grubbs. I would also draft Philip Blake in the draft. I really think Willie Smith can step into the right tackle spot. Quality depth behind him I also think we need that explosive runner with soft hands like LaMichael James although I think he will be gone in the second.
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| | #99 |
| Gamebreaker ![]() Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft I don't know, but I still remember how the Parcell's-led Dolphins signed Justin Smiley about 10 to 15 minutes into free agency a couple of years ago.
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| | #100 |
| Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft Probably imagine it would be the same BS language Fred Davis will see in his next contract. or atleast it should be. |
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| | #101 |
| Mann Up HOF! ![]() Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft 49ers and Briggs?
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| The Starter Join Date: Feb 2008
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft Quote:
I don't view Gaffney as having upside nor room for improvement but his level of production is useful. And I think you greatly discredit/discount Moss's level of production. If it was easy to replace Moss's production from 2010 then every team would simply plug in any receiver and just throw to them a whole bunch. Moss's 2010 production is not easily replaceable and its not something to take for granted. Will the WR need to upgraded in the future? Sure. But right now we have Moss under contract we have a FA WR in Gaffney that is productive and knows the system and some young WR to develop. They were part of a middle of the pack receiving corps that was held back by both poor QB play and shotty pass protection. I would be willing to ride out the season with an upgraded RT, upgraded vertical passing game and playmaking that Griffin should provide and see how the Hankerson and the young WRs develop with Gaffney and a healthy Moss and Armstrong. I don't see the reason to make it a priority before its turn when there are clearly underperforming units/positions that desperatley need an upgrade to aid the success of the Griffin. And for me it starts with pass protection. Imo there are only a set amount of effective FA moves that can be made from both a dollar and a continuity stand point to the point where a FA move in one area may preclude a FA move in another area. Quote:
How can a WR that can't get off press coverage be a viable deep threat to the tune of 44 catches 800(ish) yards and 19.8 YPC? Again, I think you're discounting Armstrong talent/production again 19.8 YPC isn't a fluke nor is it something to take for granted. Quote:
But every FA receiver we bring in delays the develop that much more because the incoming FA receivers will need reps to learn the offense. Quote:
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I believe what I see and when Helu was given enough carries the offense was effective and Helu was easily in the 100 yard range. Evan Royster ran well too. Shanny/Turner will go with the hot hand at RB until one distinguishes themselves from the pack. Quote:
London is a smart dude that knows how the game works, the DMV area is great it sells itself unless we insult him with the contract he'll be back.
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| | #103 |
| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft Hey man, if things fall the way you think it would save us some big money and we will see a resurgence of our passing game. I simply think we had one of the least talented group of receivers last season and don't see any individuals who would cause a defensive coordinators to gameplan for them in 2012 if we didn't upgrade. I think Armstrong peaked in 2010 and teams learned how to defend him. I think Moss is in a decline. For the record I think many can replicate his projected production, not his production from 2010. I doubt he has 91 career catches left, much less in a season. With Gaffney, I doubt he produces as much as he did in '11 again but he's a piece of the puzzle probably best suited as a #3 or #4 WR on a good team. I'll put it this way, would any of our WR crack the top three of any team in our division at the end of last season or going into 2012 camp? NYG-Nicks, Cruz, Manningham PHI-Jackson, Maclin, Avant DAL-Austin, Bryant, Robinson An argument could be made that a healthy Moss would be the #3 receiver on any of those teams but for our "#1" to be compared to the third best on every one of our division foes, I don't see how WR isn't a major need.
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| | #104 |
| The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Mexico
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft Yes please.
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| | #105 |
| Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26
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| Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft He didn't do anything last year though
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