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Old 03-13-2012, 01:54 PM   #61
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No, 28 bitter/jealous/crybaby NFL owners and their puppet commissioner just cost us $36 mil.
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:55 PM   #62
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i want to resign fletcher, and sign:

winston, finnegan, and royal.
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i want to resign fletcher, and sign:

winston, finnegan, and royal.
Please god not that nut job finnegan
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No I think you misunderstood my point, my point was about Vincent Jackson and I was saying signing someone like that will backfire on you more than 50 percent of the time. Someone had asked "why the hate on vincent" and I was answering their question from my point of view on him. I said that the new management is starting to build through the draft multiple times which is why I said it looks like we have a bright future. I think using free agency can help you but its my opinion that you build through the draft and use free agency to fill a couple of pieces here and there if that makes sense. Like Winston, i think he would be a good tackle for us. I just don't like Vincent because of what he appears to be to me. Thats why I answered that guys question about him.
Gotcha. I understand your concerns about VJax, but at the same time the team has to surround RG3 with weapons. RG3 is a vast improvement over our QBs last year, but he is not going to automatically going to make avg receivers better. Look at Cam last year, he has the skills, but Steve Smith helped A LOT. So far, Bruce Allen has shown us that he won't go overboard with contracts, and I hope this stays true with VJax...though I am afraid that with Colston going back to the Saints, the price for VJax just got even higher.
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i want to resign fletcher, and sign:

winston, finnegan, and royal.
agreed

add Morgan and/or Meachem and I'd be really happy.
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Gotcha. I understand your concerns about VJax, but at the same time the team has to surround RG3 with weapons. RG3 is a vast improvement over our QBs last year, but he is not going to automatically going to make avg receivers better. Look at Cam last year, he has the skills, but Steve Smith helped A LOT. So far, Bruce Allen has shown us that he won't go overboard with contracts, and I hope this stays true with VJax...though I am afraid that with Colston going back to the Saints, the price for VJax just got even higher.
VJax is 29. Why would we want to spend big to sign a 29 year old receiver to one of the biggest contracts in history for a receiver and pair him with a rookie quarterback? by the time Griffen is up to speed, VJax will likely be on the decline.... and thats IF he stays clean and doesnt get a year-long suspension.

In three years, i'd be all about spending big on a marquee receiver. right now, i just dont see the point in it (especially in light of our reduced cap space).
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If you had to make a choice, $8 million a year for a 36 year old MLB who's been a rock for this team on an off the field for the past several years but probably wouldn't see the end of his contract or $11 million a year for a 29 year old WR who's arguably the best on the market but is one suspension away from being out for a year...which would you choose?
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Please god not that nut job finnegan
You see, what people don't understand about Finnegan is the dumb penalties he takes for roughing, playing after the whistle, and generally doing other dumb things are far different than the penalties we chastise D.Hall for, like penalties for roughing, playing after the whistle, and generally doing other dumb things.

That's just the way Finnegan is and the mentality he brings. Totally different than the hotheads we've had past and present that continually hurt our team in key situations.
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Gotcha. I understand your concerns about VJax, but at the same time the team has to surround RG3 with weapons. RG3 is a vast improvement over our QBs last year, but he is not going to automatically going to make avg receivers better. Look at Cam last year, he has the skills, but Steve Smith helped A LOT. So far, Bruce Allen has shown us that he won't go overboard with contracts, and I hope this stays true with VJax...though I am afraid that with Colston going back to the Saints, the price for VJax just got even higher.
I just don't trust Vincent with money. Especially with his track record. I would rather sign Winston and improve our Oline cause in the end football comes down to Olines vs Dlines, I also feel that receiver is one of those postions where you can find hidden gems in later rounds in the draft. Broyles for example if he recovers which reports say he is could be a great slot receiver. Adams from Arkansas had an impressive senior bowl and at one point was in heisman talk and he might drop cause of a bad 40 time. I just see receivers around the league and where they were drafted and think that they are similar to running backs in terms of value, Unless either of the Johnsons or Fitzgeralds are free agents, I don't see the need to pay a lot of money to a receiver.
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No I think you misunderstood my point, my point was about Vincent Jackson and I was saying signing someone like that will backfire on you more than 50 percent of the time. Someone had asked "why the hate on vincent" and I was answering their question from my point of view on him. I said that the new management is starting to build through the draft multiple times which is why I said it looks like we have a bright future. I think using free agency can help you but its my opinion that you build through the draft and use free agency to fill a couple of pieces here and there if that makes sense. Like Winston, i think he would be a good tackle for us. I just don't like Vincent because of what he appears to be to me. Thats why I answered that guys question about him.
Of course, building through the draft is a luxury the Skins have very little of right now. So it's essential that they use free agency. The picks that they lost (basically two first rounders and a second) would typically equal at least one stud, possibly two. So it's on us the front office to aggresively pursue some studs in free agency. That is going to cost the team, and it will be a risk, but it's really the only option at this point. It won't be enough to just surround Griffin with 21 role players.

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Of course, building through the draft is a luxury we have very little right now. So it's essential that we use free agency. The picks that we lost (basically 2 first rounders and a second) would typically equal at least one stud, possibly two. So it's on us now to aggresively pursue some studs in free agency. That is going to cost us, and it will be a risk, but it's really our only option at this point. It won't be enough to just surround Griffin with 21 role players.
Forgot last year's draft already?

5 picks left by Vinny --> 12 SOLID picks by Shanallenhan.

I expect a repeat performance.
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Forgot last year's draft already?

5 picks left by Vinny --> 12 SOLID picks by Shanallenhan.

I expect a repeat performance.
I didn't forget last year's draft, nor did I fogret last week's trade. I guess the point I was making was that we'll be able to make some solid moves in the draft, but we're limited as to our ability to draft a pro-bowl caliber player (aside from Griffin, of course!).
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Of course, building through the draft is a luxury the Skins have very little of right now. So it's essential that they use free agency. The picks that they lost (basically two first rounders and a second) would typically equal at least one stud, possibly two. So it's on us the front office to aggresively pursue some studs in free agency. That is going to cost the team, and it will be a risk, but it's really the only option at this point. It won't be enough to just surround Griffin with 21 role players.
How so? At least for 2012....we are using our first to draft our Franchise QB, and it will cost us only an additional 2.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:17 PM   #74
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Of course, building through the draft is a luxury the Skins have very little of right now. So it's essential that they use free agency. The picks that they lost (basically two first rounders and a second) would typically equal at least one stud, possibly two. So it's on us the front office to aggresively pursue some studs in free agency. That is going to cost the team, and it will be a risk, but it's really the only option at this point. It won't be enough to just surround Griffin with 21 role players.
We don't need a lot of first round picks. If we sign Winston we took care of the two tackles, what we need are corners, guards and depth for the online, receiver and safeties and their aren't many of those in free agency, however their are a lot of good guards coming out this year in the draft like the kid Silatolu from Midwestern State who just mauls people and seems like that kind of olinemen that went to a small school but has heart and a mean streak. There are a lot of good corners or players that played corner like Johnson from Montana and could possibly move to safety. Ryan Broyles is a great slot receiver and their is that kid who went to a small school his name i completely forget (I just found out it was Brian Quick), Cooley hopefully will start to work hard again cause he has a qb which will give us Cooley and Davis(this is hopeful) we don't need a first round pick in order to add depth and make our team better. If you want to be the Eagles and probably never win a superbowl with their current roster then build through free agency. But we can draft players and sign a few key guys and we will be ok. I believe in Griffin

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He haw....5 pages and we havent even signed anyone yet.
Is it 4:30 yet?
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