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Old 03-29-2012, 02:33 AM   #901
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He also forgot to say that Josh Morgan is also coming off a serious ankle injury; very grotesque break from what I heard. I would have taken Eddie Royal over Josh, but whatever.


Morgan's a very underrated player. He'll be fine. He could go right now if needed. I'm looking at Hank/Garcon/Morgan as the triad that will grow with Griffin.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:43 AM   #902
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There is an ongoing theme I'm seeing that is pretty sad, and that is apparently the Browns do not have a phone anywhere in their building and non of the staff have cell phones. The team must have banned them from the facility in case of a situation of an active shooter.

What on earth am I talking about? The Skins trade with the Rams for the #2 pick and the Browns whined about how they wanted the trade. How their offer was just as good as the Redskins.

Now the Browns are saying they wanted Pierre GarÁon. Um, what they can't make a phone call? Can't contact an agent? Oh I know what it is.... it's he whole competitive advantage BS.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:06 PM   #903
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If you have a problem with Garcon then your really going to have a problem with RG3. He's all potential also and no production.
I actually don't have a problem with Garcon. Price was a little steep but sometimes you gotta overpay. I just didn't see the reason for the Morgan signing.

And the RG3 comment was just silly.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:48 PM   #904
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Yeah but both of those teams have established QBs that helped develop those young WRs. Plus, when Big Ben took over in Pittsburgh, he had two experienced WRs in Hines (who was a Pro Bowler) and Burress. If you invest on a young QB, you want to give him weapons right away and not gamble with the development of young WRs.
Sorry but I'm going out and getting quality o-linemen to protect my investment BEFORE I go out and get wr's. Besides, we already have Moss and Gafney here. Those guys are solid vets.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:51 PM   #905
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Sorry but I'm going out and getting quality o-linemen to protect my investment BEFORE I go out and get wr's. Besides, we already have Moss and Gafney here. Those guys are solid vets.
I tend to agree with you but the question is weather or not the line is as bad as we think it is.

I mean we've been over the numbers before,

- They gave up 5 fewer sacks in 2011 then they did in 2010 with their starting LT and LG missing a huge chunk of time.

-They also had a couple games where John Beck held onto the ball wayyyyyyyyyyyy to long.

- And they also ended the season with a string of games which featured a 100 yard rusher.
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Moss and Gaffney are solid vets but neither is a deep threat, and let's face it both are on the tail end of their careers. We needed some productive young talent at WR.
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Moss and Gaffney are solid vets but neither is a deep threat, and let's face it both are on the tail end of their careers. We needed some productive young talent at WR.
Yes sir. We need some whippersnappers that Griffin can grow with.
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Yes sir. We need some whippersnappers that Griffin can grow with.
Absolutely. On paper at least it's a nice mix of vets who know the system and younger playmakers who will grow w/ Griffin.
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I tend to agree with you but the question is weather or not the line is as bad as we think it is.

I mean we've been over the numbers before,

- They gave up 5 fewer sacks in 2011 then they did in 2010 with their starting LT and LG missing a huge chunk of time.

-They also had a couple games where John Beck held onto the ball wayyyyyyyyyyyy to long.

- And they also ended the season with a string of games which featured a 100 yard rusher.
Good points. It's obvious that the staff probably thinks they're solid there with the lack of activity in free agency. They put wr as the number one priority. We'll see...
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:59 PM   #910
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For me its a question of team building philosophy.

Our OL last year was better then the year prior.

But, if I'm building an offense and a team around a young QB I want to aim higher then being better then terrible along the OL.

Griffin would provide an automatic boost to the passing game by himself.
No one is saying Gaffney and Moss are top level WRs.
But if they can be productive with McNabb and Rex then they'll be productive with Griff.
We build the OL ride with Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong give Hankerson a chance to develop and draft a WR.
But the focus would be on upgrading the OL specifically the RT but addressing RG would've been good also.

I like Garcon and Morgan, don't get me wrong.
But I would have prefered to improve the OL this year then address WR next year after we see what we have in Hankerson and the other WRs.
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Moss and Gaffney are solid vets but neither is a deep threat, and let's face it both are on the tail end of their careers. We needed some productive young talent at WR.
I think in one-on-one coverage, Moss or Gaffney can stil get behind the corner back and catch a deep ball. Gaffney and Moss are more of possession receivers now, but they can still go deep.
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I think in one-on-one coverage, Moss or Gaffney can stil get behind the corner back and catch a deep ball. Gaffney and Moss are more of possession receivers now, but they can still go deep.
Sure, if the corner falls down maybe.

Neither guy is the kind of reliable deep threat you need.

And Gaffney isn't a big yards after the catch guy either. We need more explosive plays and these guys just don't cut it in that department.
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We need more explosive plays and these guys just don't cut it in that department.
You wouldn't be relying on them as deep threats or 'explosive' players.
Moss is a move around guy at this point and his greatest production is from the slot.
Armstrong and Hankerson would be the 'vertical' WRs.
But, its all moot anyway.

The additions of Garcon and Morgan without a doubt improve the WRs corps.
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And Gaffney isn't a big yards after the catch guy either. W


This is what it boils down to. YAC.


LOL @ Moss & Gaffney as deep threats. Needed that laugh today.
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This is what it boils down to. YAC.
Lets keep some perspective here.
Moss has always been one of the better YAC receivers.
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