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Old 03-30-2012, 06:33 PM   #931
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I hope we add Tommy Streeter to the roster and let him develop for a year or two.
Would be nice to sign that guy and hide him for a year or 2.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:48 PM   #932
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So let me restate my question to align with your points. What improvement do you expect from the same WR personnel with improved pass protection?
Again you're missing or ignoring my point.
Improving the WR production would not be my main objective.
For this year I wouldn't have been concerned with using the limited FA resources to improve the WR production.
If there is improvement in WR production it would come from the upgrade at QB and the normal development of young WRs (Hankerson specifically) and the return of a healthy Moss and Armstrong (if he's even back).
And if there were additional FA resources after we addressed the OL and ILB then I look at the remaining FA WRs (maybe a Harry Douglas or an Early Doucet).

But, in year 1 of my rookie QB's development my main objectives would be to win upfront at the LOS and protect my QB with a solid running game and good pass protection.

WRs would be at the bottom of my list on team building scale.
A lot of production from a passing game is a function of chemistry which is built over time.
A QB that is comfortable and knows his offense can help WRs develop and elevate their production.
And once an offense is built its easier to plug in a WR foregein to the system to the system like Garcon/Morgan will be.

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Here's the problem with citing 2010 Armstrong and Moss stats. It's 2012. You can't ignore a year and say, but they used to be good.
Where have I made the above point?

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Moss had a bunch of drops (pre and post hand injury) and his YPC was actually 2 yards better post injury (11.4 vs. 13.5) so the 'injured year' statement doesn't hold much water
I don't think Moss had enough drops to be a meaningful sign of decline especially post injury.

Do you really think cherry picking the stats above is meaningful? Every game has its own circumstances and when you don't take the stats as whole it almost renders them meaningless because you don't know what the causes were.
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:04 PM   #933
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At 33, chances are Moss is on the decline. Not saying he can't still be a productive player, but he's no longer the explosive player he once was.

With Garçon, Morgan, Hankerson, and Davis we have a nice group of guys that can make things happen down the field and after the catch.
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:32 PM   #934
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At 33, chances are Moss is on the decline. Not saying he can't still be a productive player, but he's no longer the explosive player he once was.

With Garçon, Morgan, Hankerson, and Davis we have a nice group of guys that can make things happen down the field and after the catch.
Which is why we tried to sign Royal as Moss's replacement, but didn't... And why (I beleive) we'll draft a slot WR/RS to replace Moss and Banks in the 4th or 5th round this year.
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:41 PM   #935
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Which is why we tried to sign Royal as Moss's replacement, but didn't... And why (I beleive) we'll draft a slot WR/RS to replace Moss and Banks in the 4th or 5th round this year.


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Old 03-31-2012, 03:32 PM   #936
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Joe Adams makes alot of sense... Shanahan coached him in the Senior Bowl, and Adams had a good game (8 Rec, 133 yds)
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:44 PM   #937
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wow people want to draft a WR too?
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:59 PM   #938
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Lol
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:34 PM   #939
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No I don't WANT to, but I think we will.
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Hopefully Robinson or Austin will step up for the slot reciever I beleive we have an OTA before the draft.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:06 PM   #941
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One ota isn't enuff to keep mike from picking a wr.. I don't agree I say roll with wat we have
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:14 PM   #942
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Well Garcon is underrated but a great WR. Hope he can do well in DC!
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:26 PM   #943
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It's gonna come down to an open competition in camp and preseason, that's how Shannahn has done it since he has been the Redskins coach. I think after an open competition Santana Moss remains. He will win the competition. IMHO.
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At 33, chances are Moss is on the decline. Not saying he can't still be a productive player, but he's no longer the explosive player he once was.

With Garçon, Morgan, Hankerson, and Davis we have a nice group of guys that can make things happen down the field and after the catch.

No disrespect Matty but out of the group of receivers you mention in this post, Moss is the only proven home run threat. Defensive coordinators do not game plan for Garcon, but they had better account for Santana Moss when he is on the field.
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:59 PM   #945
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We're ok at receiver. Defense and OL will be the focus in the draft.
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