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View Poll Results: What did you think of the Saint's punishment?
Too harsh 56 44.80%
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:48 PM   #226
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Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something?
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:50 PM   #227
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I am amazed that 57% in this poll think the punishment was just right or to light. Would love to see those numbers if it were the Redskins getting these penalties. Suspending the head coach for a full season is like handing out a death sentence to the 2012 Saints. What did the Saints fans do to deserve that?...especially the season ticket holders who had to plunk down their money a couple weeks ago. I don't care if they fine Payton his entire salary but it is not fare to the fans for them to suspend him for a full season.
the fans? idk what the fans did. but if this were another line of work, chances are that these people would have been fired as opposed to suspended. they may have even faced criminal charges. if they worked for company x, i doubt anyone would ask "what did company x's customers do to deserve that?"
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Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something?
Who says they can't?
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Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something?
They can, but I can think of two reasons why Payton wouldn't. 1) Sean Payton is worried that one of them will out do him, thus he is worried about his job security and has contacted Parcells because he knows he will only be a one year type deal; or 2) He has no faith that any of his coordinators are good enough to be head coaches currently.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:05 PM   #230
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They can, but I can think of two reasons why Payton wouldn't. 1) Sean Payton is worried that one of them will out do him, thus he is worried about his job security and has contacted Parcells because he knows he will only be a one year type deal; or 2) He has no faith that any of his coordinators are good enough to be head coaches currently.
Oh okay...I don't know for some reason some sports talking head on Twitter (can't remember who) said as though there was some rule preventing him from doing it.
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Oh okay...I don't know for some reason some sports talking head on Twitter (can't remember who) said as though there was some rule preventing him from doing it.
The only rule I know of is the Rooney rule that requires the team to interview a black coach for the position should the team look outside the organization for a replacement. Though, that may be unrelated to what you are looking for...
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The only rule I know of is the Rooney rule that requires the team to interview a black coach for the position should the team look outside the organization for a replacement. Though, that may be unrelated to what you are looking for...
I wonder how the Rooney Rule applies in this situation. It's an interim head coach filling in for a head coach that is currently under contract, but suspended. Certainly a different situation than the normal coaching search process.
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NFL officials interviewed former #Redskins player for 5 hrs yesterday about Greg Williams and bounty issues in Washington
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I wonder how the Rooney Rule applies in this situation. It's an interim head coach filling in for a head coach that is currently under contract, but suspended. Certainly a different situation than the normal coaching search process.
If they choose an internal candidate it doesn't apply, it only applies if they look outside the org.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:43 PM   #235
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Probably has to do with further investigation in regards to GW. Unless John Mara stirred something up.
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Probably has to do with further investigation in regards to GW. Unless John Mara stirred something up.
Sorta makes you wonder really.
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I know they've said we've been absolved of wrong-doing, but they also approved those contracts during the uncapped year. I'm still concerned until we draft RGIII or Luck...
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:42 PM   #238
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Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints

So at this point it seems that Goodell has not closed the Bountygate investigation. Given how the league seems to make sh*t up, I am slightly concerned about this.

However, at worst I think any penalties would be a fine on the team, but they'd have to prove that Snyder somehow knew about this, since he's the only person leftover from that regime. A lot of the severity in the penalties for the Saints came because the league had warned them to stop the bounties and the Saints did not.

Still, as TMC said, I will be more comfortable after the draft once we've selected RG3 (or Luck). Before that, there's a small part of me that is paranoid about this. At least until the matter is closed by the league.
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Just out of curiosity, does the league regulate spending for coaches? I know that Payton is not being paid, but I am sure Parcells won't come cheap for them.

There is no cap on what a team may spend on coaches or GMs or scouts or any personnel of that nature. The only cap is on players...
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Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something?
The Saints can name almost anyone to be their head coach next year. The only people I can think of off the top of my head who would not be allowed to work in that job would be Sean Payton, Gregg Williams, Joe Vitt and Micky Loomis. Are there any other folks sitting out league imposed banishments? If so, none of them could be the Saints coach either...
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