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Old 07-22-2012, 11:44 AM   #166
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Yeah, I read this earlier and I was thinking Jeremy Bates, not that it matters who said it.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:51 AM   #167
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How different will the Madden 13 playbook be?
Maybe it will resemble the Baylor NCAA 2012 playbook. I've played that recently with RG3 and its fun to run that "Speed Option" from the shotgun. Forget RG3, you can ply up a ton of yards for the RB out of that play.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:31 AM   #168
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How different will the Madden 13 playbook be?
70% of the playbook will be variations on the "bubble screen"
10% Running plays
10% QB options
10% WR streaks and Hail Mary plays
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:29 PM   #169
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How different will the Madden 13 playbook be?
It will be the same as Madden 2012.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:41 PM   #170
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Shanahan will incorporate some of the things RG3 did at Baylor, especially the smoke screens, and one-step quick game. Last year, the Redskins were 1-8 in games where they couldn't generate at least 21 points. RG3 has not called an offense from the line of scrimmage in a true audible system, so the Redskins will have to go slow in this area.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:30 AM   #172
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I see John Keim mentioned a few times RGIII was operatin g out of the pistol formation. I don't recall seeing seeing any of the past QBs out from under center and the RB directly behind them.
The Pistol would certainly be a new look to this offense.
I haven't seen the Pistol in the NFL since Chan Gailey +Tyler Thigpen with the Chief's 4-5 years ago.


Could you link the John Kiem article?
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Didn't the Steeler's run some pistol recently when Big Ben was playing with a bad ankle?
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However, as Alexander said Griffin is a different sort of runner than Vick. He’s not as explosive (no one is), but if it becomes a footrace Griffin will win often. And it doesn’t need to be for 30 yards; sometimes it’s a nine-yard gain on a first down bootleg. Those plays add up.

Another play that will cause defenses headaches is the pistol formation, with Griffin reading the defensive end and deciding whether to hand off or keep the ball himself.

“Things happen slower and you have to be a lot more disciplined,” Alexander said. “You can’t be quick to pursue. You take one step the wrong way and he’s on the edge on you or you’ve got a guy who’s athletic like Trent [Williams] who can get up on you. That will help us when we see a guy like Cam.

“[Defenses] will definitely have a harder time if they don’t see it all the time. You can’t see where he has the ball. … Eventually [the offense’s] timing will get a lot better and Robert locating that end and whether to pull or keep he’ll get more deceptive like that and make more plays.”

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Old 07-28-2012, 10:30 AM   #175
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However, as Alexander said Griffin is a different sort of runner than Vick. He’s not as explosive (no one is), but if it becomes a footrace Griffin will win often. And it doesn’t need to be for 30 yards; sometimes it’s a nine-yard gain on a first down bootleg. Those plays add up.

Another play that will cause defenses headaches is the pistol formation, with Griffin reading the defensive end and deciding whether to hand off or keep the ball himself.

“Things happen slower and you have to be a lot more disciplined,” Alexander said. “You can’t be quick to pursue. You take one step the wrong way and he’s on the edge on you or you’ve got a guy who’s athletic like Trent [Williams] who can get up on you. That will help us when we see a guy like Cam.

“[Defenses] will definitely have a harder time if they don’t see it all the time. You can’t see where he has the ball. … Eventually [the offense’s] timing will get a lot better and Robert locating that end and whether to pull or keep he’ll get more deceptive like that and make more plays.”

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Pistol formation is a nice wrinkle. Kyle/Shanny coaching towards a strength of RG3, for those who said coaches wouldnt adapt their strategy(me kinda).
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:32 AM   #176
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Pistol formation is a nice wrinkle. Kyle/Shanny coaching towards a strength of RG3, for those who said coaches wouldnt adapt their strategy(me kinda).
That and some zone read option. Definitely sounds like they are working in things that he did well in college.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:43 AM   #177
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...Another play that will cause defenses headaches is the pistol formation, with Griffin reading the defensive end and deciding whether to hand off or keep the ball himself.
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Thank you Matty.
I don't read the local media very often; consequently I forget that there are some guys like Kiem that do a good job.

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Didn't the Steeler's run some pistol recently when Big Ben was playing with a bad ankle?
Don't watch that many Steelers games but in the few I saw don't recall any seeing the Pistol formation.
When KC ran it with Thigpen the Pistol was the bulk of there offense.

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8. By the way, Griffin ran a zone read on one play, though he handed the ball off to running back Roy Helu. Griffin did have one run up the middle.
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You can actually see them in Pistol (offset-I) a few times in this clip^^^
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:55 PM   #178
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Thank you Matty.
I don't read the local media very often; consequently I forget that there are some guys like Kiem that do a good job.

Don't watch that many Steelers games but in the few I saw don't recall any seeing the Pistol formation.
When KC ran it with Thigpen the Pistol was the bulk of there offense.
No threat from Ben to run of course with the bad foot, but they ran the pistol here

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^^Good find Mattyk.
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