Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also?

mlmpetert · 03-29-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by skinster

Andy Reid had to have seen that McNabb wasn't what he used to be. How bad he knew he was is up to debate, but there is no way he would trade McNabb to the skins when equal offers were given if he thought that McNabb would be able to do serious damage. Since 2005 (the year eli Manning became a starter), McNabb's average TD/year was a little over 19 for the 5 remaining years he was an eagle. McNabb in that time period McNabb's highest TD mark was 23. In those 5 years Eli only had one year lower than that in 2008 when he had 21. You have to remember, for a long time people said Manning was terrible. He didn't even make this pre-seasons top 10 QBs on almost any show I watched. It's even worse once you take into account that the Eagles were a pass first team.

McNabb also was getting up there in years, and had many injuries over his career.

Age/injuries/lack of performance in a pass friendly offense.....don't know why he was still highly regarded. Coaches get too wrapped up in wins when it comes to QBs.

Yeah i rememeber the big issue most of us had was the fact the McNabb hadnt made it a full season but X amount of times in the the last X years, and his age. I dont think anyone could have predicted it would have worked out as bad as it did.... except maybe the eagles.

I wonder how much we bid over other teams. If it was a little bit, it could suggest the eagles knew mcnabb would cause big problems for us. If it was a lot it could suggest Shanahan and Allen got it wrong, and everyone else got it right.

GhettoDogAllStars · 03-29-2012, 06:18 PM

1.) McNabb was never very good. Reid deserves credit for being successful with him.

2.) Just because McNabb can't fit into a different scheme, neither can RG3? That's a dis towards RG3, not Shanahan.

Monksdown · 03-29-2012, 06:22 PM

How was he misused the first time? It's not Shanaclan's fault the guy was a self important inflexable system quarterback. His one intangable was evasiveness. When he lost that, AND he was put in a different system with other players trying to learn their jobs in the new system, what did anyone expect?

CultBrennan59 · 03-29-2012, 08:03 PM

Donovan McNabb is a great Quarterback. Great great Quarterback...

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NC_Skins · 03-29-2012, 09:13 PM

Dirtbag59 · 03-29-2012, 11:53 PM

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Faux John Madden ‏ @FauxJohnMadden Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Donovan McNabb feels that Robert Griffin III will come up short in Mike Shanahan's offense, similar to McNabb's passes.

GusFrerotte · 03-30-2012, 12:10 AM

God damn, this is sort of funny, most of the guys in here loved getting McNabb, now they hate him. Yeah, not saying Donovan was any good, but when we got him a good 80-85% of the guys in here liked the move without asking the same question. Why did Philly jettison his ass to a divisional rival? Or they just were so elated we got a Pro Bowl QB that they just swept it under the rug. McNabb might have touched on a good topic for discussion though. Will the Shannys try to tinker with their system to help RG III flourish or just see if he can make it in their system doing it their way? I think they need to adjust it for him. The franchise paid a steep price in terms of draft picks for this to become another failed project.

GTripp0012 · 03-30-2012, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

This just made me think about something...

Did the eagles trade him to us because they knew it would hurt us. ie They knew McNabb was done, or old dog new trick, or big ego or something else?

Or

Did the eagles take a gamble because our offer was so much higher than every other interested team. ie Shanahan/Allen missed what everyone else saw?

It was that one. And I think that's a really good way of stating it. The Eagles took a big risk putting McNabb in the division, and giving him to a coach with the reputation of Mike Shanahan.

Philadelphia had serious offers on the table from Washington and Oakland, but McNabb didn't want to go to Oakland because (at the time) they were a circus.

Shadowbyte · 03-30-2012, 04:16 AM

I agree with McNabb 110%, even though what he said was in poor taste. They expected him to make the playoffs with one of the weakest offensive rosters in Redskins history. But this horse is dead, McNabb needs to go away now.

Shadowbyte · 03-30-2012, 04:17 AM

How many playoff games have the Eagles won since McNabb was jettisoned from Philly?

htownskinfan · 03-30-2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

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Faux John Madden ‏ @FauxJohnMadden Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Donovan McNabb feels that Robert Griffin III will come up short in Mike Shanahan's offense, similar to McNabb's passes.

I think Mcnabb is spouting sour grapes with a bit of the truth thrown in there.
When I watch that video Im impressed with Mcnabbs play in that game.He was under constant heavy pass rush,he scrambled like the Mcnabb of old,he had at least 6 drops of very catchable balls,he did not look washed up at all to me in this game

SmootSmack · 03-30-2012, 07:49 AM

McNabb basically said Shanahan has failed every QB under him, after Elway. Which is simply not true.

Hog1 · 03-30-2012, 08:08 AM

Dude has been....multiple offended in the last couple of years as the revolving doors of several teams have hit him in the ass. His ego (it appears) can't grasp......how done he is, and has been. I am sure he has several axe (plural?) to grind with those teams who in his eye have treated him shabbily. It must keep his schedule rather full......

Hog1 · 03-30-2012, 08:27 AM

Herm Edwards on M & M basically just completely disagreed with the assessment of Mc.... RG to the Skins.......imagine that.

NC_Skins · 03-30-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

I agree with McNabb 110%, even though what he said was in poor taste. They expected him to make the playoffs with one of the weakest offensive rosters in Redskins history. But this horse is dead, McNabb needs to go away now.

Any point is null and void the moment he was benched and outperformed by Rex Grossman. REX GROSSMAN!!!

Smoot, I will bribe you to use your contacts to make sure McDummy never gets a job as a analyst at ESPN.

03-29-2012, 06:18 PM	#32
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 31 Posts: 2,759	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? 1.) McNabb was never very good. Reid deserves credit for being successful with him. 2.) Just because McNabb can't fit into a different scheme, neither can RG3? That's a dis towards RG3, not Shanahan. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

03-29-2012, 06:22 PM	#33
Monksdown Robert Griffin III Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 32 Posts: 1,495	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? How was he misused the first time? It's not Shanaclan's fault the guy was a self important inflexable system quarterback. His one intangable was evasiveness. When he lost that, AND he was put in a different system with other players trying to learn their jobs in the new system, what did anyone expect? __________________ Robert Griffin III

03-29-2012, 08:03 PM	#34
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,570	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? Donovan McNabb is a great Quarterback. Great great Quarterback... ... __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

03-29-2012, 09:13 PM	#35
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,254	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

03-29-2012, 11:53 PM	#36
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,952	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? Play at same time Faux John Madden ‏ @FauxJohnMadden Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Donovan McNabb feels that Robert Griffin III will come up short in Mike Shanahan's offense, similar to McNabb's passes. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

03-30-2012, 12:10 AM	#37
GusFrerotte Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 3,961	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? God damn, this is sort of funny, most of the guys in here loved getting McNabb, now they hate him. Yeah, not saying Donovan was any good, but when we got him a good 80-85% of the guys in here liked the move without asking the same question. Why did Philly jettison his ass to a divisional rival? Or they just were so elated we got a Pro Bowl QB that they just swept it under the rug. McNabb might have touched on a good topic for discussion though. Will the Shannys try to tinker with their system to help RG III flourish or just see if he can make it in their system doing it their way? I think they need to adjust it for him. The franchise paid a steep price in terms of draft picks for this to become another failed project.

03-30-2012, 04:16 AM	#39
Shadowbyte Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 383	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? I agree with McNabb 110%, even though what he said was in poor taste. They expected him to make the playoffs with one of the weakest offensive rosters in Redskins history. But this horse is dead, McNabb needs to go away now.

03-30-2012, 04:17 AM	#40
Shadowbyte Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 383	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? How many playoff games have the Eagles won since McNabb was jettisoned from Philly?

03-30-2012, 07:49 AM	#42
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? McNabb basically said Shanahan has failed every QB under him, after Elway. Which is simply not true. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-30-2012, 08:08 AM	#43
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,372	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? Dude has been....multiple offended in the last couple of years as the revolving doors of several teams have hit him in the ass. His ego (it appears) can't grasp......how done he is, and has been. I am sure he has several axe (plural?) to grind with those teams who in his eye have treated him shabbily. It must keep his schedule rather full...... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

03-30-2012, 08:27 AM	#44
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,372	Re: Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also? Herm Edwards on M & M basically just completely disagreed with the assessment of Mc.... RG to the Skins.......imagine that. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

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