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Old 04-09-2012, 07:17 PM   #31
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Maybe I need to look at the numbers but Chester at RG was not bad at all & if I'm right he was the only OL man to start all 16 games.
I think he did start all 16 games but I would not describe his level of play as not bad.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:20 PM   #32
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There's a lot the Redskins can do to improve their offensive line, but there's nothing they have to do in order to save their season. This isn't quite the Red Alert we're dealing with in the secondary.
I would put the OL concerns up there with secondary.
Rookie QBs usually hold the ball longer, miss more hot reads and sight adjusts and are generally more dependent on quality pass protection for success then veteran QBs that know the scheme.
Unless they're counting on continuity based improvements I think the OL we had last year isn't good enough to support the kind of offensive success I think they're looking for.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:46 PM   #33
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Redskins sign UFA OT James Lee - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

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Maybe he provides some good depth , Allen signed him while in Tampa .
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:03 PM   #34
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:37 PM   #35
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.... This isn't quite the Red Alert we're dealing with in the secondary.
Wow... no offense, but this is like a broken record. I'm not happy with the secondary either, and I was on record saying that we should find a way to keep Carlos on the team instead of letting him go. Losing Landry sucks, but he has basically been gone for 1.5 years already. Still, we were 12th in pass defense last year. These posts make it sound like we were 30th in the league or worse.

We need a quality depth player at CB and another at Guard/Center. If we get the QB position right, our problems at CB can be overcome. The Giants stand out as a prime example. They were worse in yards/game and completion percentage and still managed to do okay.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:56 PM   #36
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When I assess our team's needs, I think we are actually weaker in secondary right now than OL. However our OL needs are more URGENT due to the fact that we are bringing in a rookie QB. Our priority should be OL.
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When I assess our team's needs, I think we are actually weaker in secondary right now than OL. However our OL needs are more URGENT due to the fact that we are bringing in a rookie QB. Our priority should be OL.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:50 PM   #38
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This new James Lee guy looks pretty crappy, maybe he just needs some more coaching, talent and technique....
"James Lee, who started nine games for Trueblood at right tackle in 2010. Lee was supposed to challenge Trueblood for the starting job in 2011, but played terribly in the preseason and was relegated to the bench. In his lone start in last year’s season finale at Atlanta, Lee gave up two sacks in the first half before being replaced by backup Demar Dotson in the second quarter. "

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Old 04-09-2012, 11:53 PM   #39
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I just want our cap money back -- and then they should allow us to make an offer to any FA RT who was signed already this year. Would never happen but would repair the wrongs..

Regardless - I agree our O-line is not as bad as we keep saying. It was a strength through the first couple of games last year.
However,
1) Injuries to key line positions WILL happen again. They happen EVERY year.
2) J.Brown is using yoga for therapy. Seriously? Yoga?
3) Our division has some of the best pass rushers in the NFL, hard to play with a rookie QB on his back the whole game. I saw RG3's college games, and he didn't do much magical when the pass rush was getting to him. Brady didn't do much when he kept getting sacked by the NY Giants. Both games.
4) TW and FD are still one puff away from killing our season.


I say bring M. Williams back from obesity, run him on a treadmill to lose 150lbs and start for us in September. It worked for Zorn and Cerrato...
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:55 PM   #40
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Don't hate on yoga, ever try it?
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Brown using Yoga to rehab is fine by me. If he was healthy and doing it as his core offsesason workout program it would be a different story but to rehab from an injury, don't really see the problem. It's really nothing more than stretching to improve flexibility.
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:14 AM   #42
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When I assess our team's needs, I think we are actually weaker in secondary right now than OL. However our OL needs are more URGENT due to the fact that we are bringing in a rookie QB. Our priority should be OL.
IMO the only reason to prioritize OL is because we are bringing in RG3. I would not be thinking this way if we weren't bringing in a rookie qb. For instance in 2010 when we also had a need at both OL and S, I personally would have selected S Eric Berry over T Trent Williams at #4 and focused on T later. In fact I still cringe when I think about us passing on Berry to select Williams at 4.

Now that we are bringing in a franchise rookie qb, that pick in 2010 should begin to make more sense to me -- I am of course assuming that he can stay off the trees
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:36 AM   #43
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I'm no scout, but I saw Williams get beat way more than I'd like a number 4 pick to, and I saw Brown get manhandled all year. The interior is harder for me to judge, but I didn't see any gaping holes. Williams is a solid left tackle. Brown is a servicable right tackle. No idea about the interior, but I assume they are all less than mediocre. The zone blocking scheme shouldn't make it too hard to open up holes considering you sheild off an area as opposed to manhandling your guy.
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Trent Williams has been inconsistent his first two years. He truthfully hasn't filled the void left by Chris Samuels. What Williams has been is average at times and bad at times. In my opinion, he has never been good as a pro. Maybe 2012 is the year he plays like Joe Jacoby. Williams definitetly has trouble against Jason Pierre Paul. He does have the potential to play at a all pro level though. He just hasn't done it.
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Trent Williams has been inconsistent his first two years. He truthfully hasn't filled the void left by Chris Samuels. What Williams has been is average at times and bad at times. In my opinion, he has never been good as a pro. Maybe 2012 is the year he plays like Joe Jacoby. Williams definitetly has trouble against Jason Pierre Paul. He does have the potential to play at a all pro level though. He just hasn't done it.
So pretty much shutting down demarcus ware every meeting isn't good? How can u guys say he's bad? I don't get it, is it the weed that people fall back on with Trent? He's a top 10 left tackle in the NFL folks period

As for JPP? Who doesn't have trouble with him?
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