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View Poll Results: Grade the Redskins 2012 Off-Season Moves
A (All I hoped for and more) 27 16.67%
B (Strong, better than expected) 86 53.09%
C (Pretty ordinary) 45 27.78%
F (I hate life) 4 2.47%
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Old 04-13-2012, 01:05 AM   #106
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I know they're not special in the grand scheme of things I suppose, but I wouldn't underestimate the value of bring Kory L. and Montgomery back. For that matter, even Adam Carriker.
I thought we already re-signed Carriker? And I don't quite follow what you mean in value...Kory L. starting is that much better than his backup starting? I don't remember him being being above average...
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:39 AM   #107
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I know they're not special in the grand scheme of things I suppose, but I wouldn't underestimate the value of bring Kory L. and Montgomery back. For that matter, even Adam Carriker.
Lichtensteiger will be back by training camp. Montgomery was signed to a 4 year extension before free agency started, I think. And Adam Carriker signed a deal to stay in Washington too.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:19 AM   #108
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I know we've got all those guys back. By value, I really meant include them when talking about addressing the o-line. Because it's often as much about who you are able to keep as you who add.

Montgomery is versatile and Kory is young and was actually doing very well at the end of 2010/start of 2011 before he got hurt
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:44 AM   #109
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I know we've got all those guys back. By value, I really meant include them when talking about addressing the o-line. Because it's often as much about who you are able to keep as you who add.

Montgomery is versatile and Kory is young and was actually doing very well at the end of 2010/start of 2011 before he got hurt
This. It's amazing how little respect Kory L. and Will M. get on here. They're not world beaters but both of them are very solid for what we ask of them.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:35 AM   #110
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Smoot, some of the ES insiders have been hinting that Jim Haslet is on borrowed time, and that if Raheem Morris can pick up the 3-4 defense, then he'll be the new DC the following year. Heard any rumblings?
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:40 AM   #111
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I like the way Montgomery and Lichtensteiger has played. They are indeed solid contributors to the Redskins offensive line. I haven't witnessed Montgomery allowing the type of penetration that Casey Rabach allowed. Will Montgomery really isn't a bad center/guard. He's just underrated. As for Lichtensteiger, I'm satisfied with the way he's play for the Redskins on the offensive line the past couple of seasons. I expect him to be even better when he comes back from his ACL injury.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:47 AM   #112
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Smoot, some of the ES insiders have been hinting that Jim Haslet is on borrowed time, and that if Raheem Morris can pick up the 3-4 defense, then he'll be the new DC the following year. Heard any rumblings?
Following year I don't know about that. I don't think Haslett has ever really comfortably established himself here and I don't believe he and Shanahan (Mike) always see eye to eye.

Anyhow, there are plenty of people who believe that ultimately MS will move full-time up stairs and the new leaders of the team on the field will be Kyle and Raheem-with one as head coach and the other as assistant/associate head coach/coordinator.

But I don't expect that to be next year
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:24 PM   #113
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I voted B, better than expected. I like the move up to get RGIII or Luck. The organization realized that the quarterback play was mediocre and needed to make a drastic move. They gave up too much because there are too many other teams with similar situations. I like the aggressive move. The grade could have been an A if Fletcher was under contract. I think the salary cap penalty has made the Fletcher deal difficult. I'm skeptical about the wide receiver upgrades. I think there will be a lot of competition in training camp, but I don't see any clear #1 and #2 receivers. The secondary upgrades added depth, nothing more.
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Following year I don't know about that. I don't think Haslett has ever really comfortably established himself here and I don't believe he and Shanahan (Mike) always see eye to eye.

Anyhow, there are plenty of people who believe that ultimately MS will move full-time up stairs and the new leaders of the team on the field will be Kyle and Raheem-with one as head coach and the other as assistant/associate head coach/coordinator.

But I don't expect that to be next year
It's almost humorous that after two terrible seasons there would be any anticipation/expectation about how Mike and Kyle will run the team beyond 2012. Win some games and make the team competitive then we'll "talk" lol...
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Following year I don't know about that. I don't think Haslett has ever really comfortably established himself here and I don't believe he and Shanahan (Mike) always see eye to eye.

Anyhow, there are plenty of people who believe that ultimately MS will move full-time up stairs and the new leaders of the team on the field will be Kyle and Raheem-with one as head coach and the other as assistant/associate head coach/coordinator.

But I don't expect that to be next year
I wonder who those people are? Do you think they'll survive if we win 4-6 games?
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:07 PM   #116
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I wonder who those people are? Do you think they'll survive if we win 4-6 games?
Who will survive? All of them?

We're going to win more than 6 games so it's not a concern to me
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I wonder who those people are? Do you think they'll survive if we win 4-6 games?
There would have to be injuries of catastrophic proportions for us to win 4-6 games this season. Even IF that's the case, the hopes of a short leash on Shanny are wasted. He's locked in for 5 yrs, especially with a rookie QB. There may be some movement on assistants (Haslett's deal is up after this year) but the big 3 (MS, BA, KS) will be here for the duration.
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I cant believe 31% think it is an odrinary offseason. My god man, we trade three ones, and a second to move up 4 spaces to pick Griffin. Thats the most I have ever seen given up for one player. I am happy about it, but ordinary?
Thats probably because a vote for (B) requires a "better than expected" attitude and we have been expecting the Redskins to go after a QB this draft. Also the Redskins are notorious for giving up picks for just one guy so again, very expected and ordinary. With that said I think even those who voted (C) are excited about Luck/RG3 possibilities.
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Thats probably because a vote for (B) requires a "better than expected" attitude and we have been expecting the Redskins to go after a QB this draft. Also the Redskins are notorious for giving up picks for just one guy so again, very expected and ordinary. With that said I think even those who voted (C) are excited about Luck/RG3 possibilities.
So you are the type that is going to call one of the boldest trades in NFL history, ordinary. I can understand love it or hate it, but to call this offseason ordinary is delusional. Last year we were expecting a new QB, and we got two, Beck and Crumpton,. Infact, I have been looking for a new Qb every year, since we lost Rypien. All I know is, I am extremely excited, and the Redskins are doing everything in there power, minus 36 million, to make this team better.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:43 PM   #120
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When I wrote pretty ordinary, I didn't mean in terms of the magnitude of the move in terms of its "front page headline" ability, but in terms of pretty ordinary as in we didn't get better or even get worse. We kind of just stayed the same
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