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View Poll Results: Grade the Redskins 2012 Off-Season Moves
A (All I hoped for and more) 27 16.67%
B (Strong, better than expected) 86 53.09%
C (Pretty ordinary) 45 27.78%
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:53 PM   #121
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Re: Grade the Redskins Moves So Far

With the news that Fletcher as finally been re-signed I'd like to bump my former C+ up to a B. The curve has been set.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:09 PM   #122
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Now that Fletcher is signed, and we have guaranteed a potential franchise rookie QB...it is easy...anything after this is gravy...we really only have a couple potential starter roles up for grabs...oline, safety and nickleback....WR is covered..that frankly is pretty good.

Every year, every squad will have 3-4 starter roles up for grabs...this is a good sign...last year and the year before we were transitioning our entire front 7, oline, WR's RBs...etc

I gave them a B
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:22 PM   #123
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I would call this the biggest move we have made in Redskins history.
I would say this RGIII trade comment is an overstatement.
It is arguable that this isn't even the biggest QB trade in Redskins history...ever hear of an inter-divisional trade involving a guy named Sonny?

And in terms of just QB's...and "biggest moves" and not"trades...ever hear of Sammy Baugh?...Championships, Hall of Fame? Move from Boston to DC?

Don't get me wrong..it is a major dice roll...but unless RGIII ends up a perennial Pro-bowler, or even an occasional one, it is another Redskins mistake.
Sure, if he wins multiple Superbowls, I will agree...but until then....he is just another rookie with more Skins Fan's high hopes.

I like him too...but he is just a single player that hasn't done anything yet...which is why we now have a reasonable rookie cap.
I hope as strongly as you do...I just recommend a more tempered level of expectation.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:30 PM   #124
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Following year I don't know about that. I don't think Haslett has ever really comfortably established himself here and I don't believe he and Shanahan (Mike) always see eye to eye.

Anyhow, there are plenty of people who believe that ultimately MS will move full-time up stairs and the new leaders of the team on the field will be Kyle and Raheem-with one as head coach and the other as assistant/associate head coach/coordinator.

But I don't expect that to be next year
Now, this was a serious question and serious insight on the long term future of the Skins....Morris as DC sounds promising...even HC potential sounds interesting...Shanny JR was 2 years ago a sure thing in the minds of many as a future HC...now...not so much...we shall see.

It is good to have 2 potential HC on staff....ever remember the old days when most of us were freaking out because Gregg Williams was spurned as successor of Gibbs II....boy was I wrong!
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:38 PM   #125
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I would say this RGIII trade comment is an overstatement.
It is arguable that this isn't even the biggest QB trade in Redskins history...ever hear of an inter-divisional trade involving a guy named Sonny?

And in terms of just QB's...and "biggest moves" and not"trades...ever hear of Sammy Baugh?...Championships, Hall of Fame? Move from Boston to DC?

Don't get me wrong..it is a major dice roll...but unless RGIII ends up a perennial Pro-bowler, or even an occasional one, it is another Redskins mistake.
Sure, if he wins multiple Superbowls, I will agree...but until then....he is just another rookie with more Skins Fan's high hopes.

I like him too...but he is just a single player that hasn't done anything yet...which is why we now have a reasonable rookie cap.
I hope as strongly as you do...I just recommend a more tempered level of expectation.
Yes I have heard of them, but show were it cost as much to make the trade. SHOW ME!! Were are talking about the MOVES, not the end result.
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:09 PM   #126
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Now, this was a serious question and serious insight on the long term future of the Skins....Morris as DC sounds promising...even HC potential sounds interesting...Shanny JR was 2 years ago a sure thing in the minds of many as a future HC...now...not so much...we shall see.

It is good to have 2 potential HC on staff....ever remember the old days when most of us were freaking out because Gregg Williams was spurned as successor of Gibbs II....boy was I wrong!
It's good to have experience on the coaching staffs. A lot of NFL have coordinators and even position coaches who were once head coaches or those who will likely be head coaches in the future. If Raheem Morris ends up being the head coach of the Redskins someday, that would be a good thing. I'm not sure Kyle Shanahan is ready for such a demanding position.
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:26 PM   #127
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Now, this was a serious question and serious insight on the long term future of the Skins....Morris as DC sounds promising...even HC potential sounds interesting...Shanny JR was 2 years ago a sure thing in the minds of many as a future HC...now...not so much...we shall see.

It is good to have 2 potential HC on staff....ever remember the old days when most of us were freaking out because Gregg Williams was spurned as successor of Gibbs II....boy was I wrong!

I think there is a lot we don't know and a little that we do. All we know is what we see. How much wiggle room was KS given by his father? I look at the first year and ignore it because I think it was more the coaching staff getting to know what they had. Then they pretty much got rid of half the players. On top of that they really didn't have a running game that first year so I think KS was given more play calls. The second year I think MS took more control and added more of the running game.

Basically I think this year will be more telling. With a better running game, better QB play, an upgrade at WR and hopefully with a OL that knows their assignments better we will see better plays and better play calls.
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:31 PM   #128
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It's good to have experience on the coaching staffs. A lot of NFL have coordinators and even position coaches who were once head coaches or those who will likely be head coaches in the future. If Raheem Morris ends up being the head coach of the Redskins someday, that would be a good thing. I'm not sure Kyle Shanahan is ready for such a demanding position.
WT? come on man, how can you know? Morris sucked which is why he was fired. KS's offensive scheme is not that bad so I doubt he would do as bad as Morris did.
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:04 PM   #129
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Wow, this thread lasted longer than I thought it would originally. Thanks Smoot for the changes.
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:24 PM   #130
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WT? come on man, how can you know? Morris sucked which is why he was fired. KS's offensive scheme is not that bad so I doubt he would do as bad as Morris did.
Maybe, maybe not. I like Kyle Shanahan as an offensive coordinator. Whether he does well enough on a consistent basis in order to become a head coach is another thing altogether. Norv Turner was probably the best offensive coordinator in the modern NFL but his head coaching record is one of the worst. Josh McDaniels was one of the best offensive coordinators of recent time, but he was terrible as a head coach. George Seifert was another great offensive coordinator and inherited a winning 49ers team when Bill Walsh stepped down. But since winning a Super Bowl in 1989 and 1994, Seifert most recent head coaching gig was with the Carolina Panthers in 2001 before he was fired after a 1-15 season.

Lately, it has been the defensive coordinators who mostly succeed as head coaches in the NFL.

Whether Kyle Shanahan becomes a head coach with the Redskins or for any other team in the NFL remains to be seen.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:09 AM   #131
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I have hope, but then again every year I do.

Griffin will make the O line look better. We will not reach the playoffs next year. We will be within a gm of 500.
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:06 PM   #132
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A+
1.We got RGIII, RGIII, did anyone watch the guy play? Awesome QB.
2. We only gave up 1 pick in the next 3 drafts to get him (2nd this year, 2 # 1's). I don't count #6 because we didn't lose that pick we improved it. You can find good starters and depth in the 3rd, 4th, 5th rounds this year and then starting with the 2nd round the next 2 seasons. Just look at our last draft.
3. We got Pierre Garcon, who going into FA I was hoping we would get instead of V. Jax. He can be a # 1 receiver and with RGIII there will be some explosive plays that we have always lacked. I miss Gary Clark, my favorite football player of all time.
4. We resigned Fletcher and Carriker to keep our front 7 intact.
5. We signed A LOT of depth in the secondary position. I can live with Hall, Wilson, and Griffin as our top 3 corners. With Williams, Jackson, Gomes, and Merriweather as our safeties.
6. O-line will be a work in progress with in the draft, but we did resign 2 of our guys plus James Lee for some tackle depth.
7. We got freaking RGIII!!!

Its time to finally start thinking positive about the franchise we root for, no more doomsday attitudes.
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