Return Of Lavar

SkinsRock · 02-10-2005, 02:50 PM

A healthy Lavar Arrington will make the defense better. It's as simple as that.

The trade rumors are nothing more than that...hypothetical rumors that are about as likely to happen as Freddie Mitchell turning into Art Monk...both personality and performance wise.

diehardskin2982 · 02-10-2005, 03:53 PM

Lavar needs to stay he can not only play Lb but Dend which makes him a great pass rusher. Let the man heal, we didn't for trotter and he did very well in philly all healed up.

wolfeskins · 02-10-2005, 04:41 PM

i can't believe all the trade lavar talk, some of you say would be good. lavar is, hands down, the best player the skins have had on d in a long time. he gets hurt and everyone wants to get rid of him. if he had played this past year there is a good chance he would have been defensive player of the year and the skins record might have been better also. i would also suspect that having the opportunity to coach lavar was a factor in greg williams coming to washington

saden1 · 02-10-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i can't believe all the trade lavar talk, some of you say would be good. lavar is, hands down, the best player the skins have had on d in a long time. he gets hurt and everyone wants to get rid of him. if he had played this past year there is a good chance he would have been defensive player of the year and the skins record might have been better also. i would also suspect that having the opportunity to coach lavar was a factor in greg williams coming to washington

Defensive player of the year? Sorry to tell you this buddy but LaVar is not that good. Maybe if he was Julius Peppers, yes, but that he is not. How many people in here would trade LaVar for Peppers?

skinsfanthru&thru · 02-10-2005, 07:15 PM

I hope I'm not repeating to many other posters similar thoughts, in that I believe even with his occasional mental lapses, a team never has enough playmakers. especially one who is physically gifted enough to break the game open (positively) in multiple ways. I mean imagine having the option of washington coming from one side and lavar and taylor on the other. unless the qb gets the ball away quickly in that situation, he's up sh*! creek without a paddle.

wolfeskins · 02-10-2005, 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=offiss]Please Wolf come back to reality here.

Willam's came to DC for 2 reason's MONEY and a understanding that he's next inline to take over when Gibb's retires it also gives him a chance to learn overall head coaching skill's as well as offensive schemes from one of the great's of all time! LAVAR! Now don't you feel silly? :cheeky-sm

i agree with you that greg wanted to learn from gibbs but i would bet that when greg williams looked at the reterning players for the skins defense he was very happy and excited to see the name lavar arrington.

wolfeskins · 02-10-2005, 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=saden1]Defensive player of the year? Sorry to tell you this buddy but LaVar is not that good. Maybe if he was Julius Peppers, yes, but that he is not. How many people in here would trade LaVar for Peppers?

two different positions so some people would trade and some would not. both are better than the other at their respected position. i didn't say he would have been d p of the year , i said he had a good chance and i stand by that statement. he had been voted to 2 or 3 consecutive probowls and was just about to be part of the #1 d in the nfc and , in my opinion, lavar would have flurished in greg william's defensive system.

Daseal · 02-10-2005, 09:21 PM

Would LaVar make the skins D better? Of course.

Is he going to make it so much better he's worth the dough? Probably not!

He's an athletic linebacker and a personallity. He's easily marketable (besides being a real cock when it comes to letting anyone use his name, etc) and pretends like he wants to be a leader. He's a good player, and I like him, but he's high on the overrated list. He's well above par, but he's sitting #2 or #3 on my overrated list. Ray Lewis has the #1 seed all taken care of with a year that really wasn't good and since he's Ray Lewis gets all the credit in the world for it.

Mattyk · 02-11-2005, 09:05 AM

Every team has their share of 'overrated players'. I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of Bears fans that think Urlacher is overrated, Dolphins fans that think Zack Thomas is overrated, Redskins errr I mean Broncos fans that think Bailey is overrated, etc.

Personally I'm a big LaVar fan, he's probably my favorite current Redskin if I had to name one.

Redskins_P · 02-11-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Personally I'm a big LaVar fan, he's probably my favorite current Redskin if I had to name one.

Same here. Springs has grown on me too. But Lavar is by far my favorite.

wolfeskins · 02-11-2005, 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=offiss]

There's a poll, who would trade Lavar, for Pepper's? It would take me about 1/2 a second to send Lavar packing for that one.

yea, and when peppers gets hurt you'll probably want to trade him away too.

Daseal · 02-11-2005, 08:52 PM

heh, LaVar has been labeled overrated for some time. He's exciting to watch and has a personallity like McNabb's that draws the media to him. However, Peppers is an amazing player who would impact our defense more. I'd like to see a poll on who you'd take - peppers or lavar. It would be interesting (assuming no salary cap implications, etc.)

wolfeskins · 02-11-2005, 09:00 PM

that would be a tough poll to answer because peppers is , without a doubt, a very good player but i just have to see lavar play a full season in greg williams system before i could even think about trading him.

Mattyk · 02-12-2005, 09:11 AM

Well, it's not a fair comparison since they don't play the same position, but if I had the choice, salary cap concerns aside, of course I would take Peppers. I may be a LaVar fanboy but I'm not a boneheaded fanboy.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to single out LaVar as the most overrated player in the game, I can think of plenty of guys who are more overrated.

wolfeskins · 02-12-2005, 09:22 AM

offiss, has there ever been a time when you thought lavar was not overrated ? like the time lavar single handedly turned the skins season around with an interception return for a touchdown against the panthers or when he ended troy aikman's football career or is your hatred for lavar because you don't like penn state. by the way , the most overrated player in football is currently M.VICK !

02-10-2005, 03:53 PM	#32
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,924	Lavar needs to stay he can not only play Lb but Dend which makes him a great pass rusher. Let the man heal, we didn't for trotter and he did very well in philly all healed up. __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

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02-10-2005, 02:50 PM	#31
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 43 Posts: 907	A healthy Lavar Arrington will make the defense better. It's as simple as that. The trade rumors are nothing more than that...hypothetical rumors that are about as likely to happen as Freddie Mitchell turning into Art Monk...both personality and performance wise.

02-10-2005, 04:41 PM	#33
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	i can't believe all the trade lavar talk, some of you say would be good. lavar is, hands down, the best player the skins have had on d in a long time. he gets hurt and everyone wants to get rid of him. if he had played this past year there is a good chance he would have been defensive player of the year and the skins record might have been better also. i would also suspect that having the opportunity to coach lavar was a factor in greg williams coming to washington

02-10-2005, 07:15 PM	#35
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 32 Posts: 3,504	I hope I'm not repeating to many other posters similar thoughts, in that I believe even with his occasional mental lapses, a team never has enough playmakers. especially one who is physically gifted enough to break the game open (positively) in multiple ways. I mean imagine having the option of washington coming from one side and lavar and taylor on the other. unless the qb gets the ball away quickly in that situation, he's up sh*! creek without a paddle.

02-10-2005, 08:25 PM	#36
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	[QUOTE=offiss]Please Wolf come back to reality here. Willam's came to DC for 2 reason's MONEY and a understanding that he's next inline to take over when Gibb's retires it also gives him a chance to learn overall head coaching skill's as well as offensive schemes from one of the great's of all time! LAVAR! Now don't you feel silly? :cheeky-sm i agree with you that greg wanted to learn from gibbs but i would bet that when greg williams looked at the reterning players for the skins defense he was very happy and excited to see the name lavar arrington.

02-10-2005, 08:33 PM	#37
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	[QUOTE=saden1]Defensive player of the year? Sorry to tell you this buddy but LaVar is not that good. Maybe if he was Julius Peppers, yes, but that he is not. How many people in here would trade LaVar for Peppers? two different positions so some people would trade and some would not. both are better than the other at their respected position. i didn't say he would have been d p of the year , i said he had a good chance and i stand by that statement. he had been voted to 2 or 3 consecutive probowls and was just about to be part of the #1 d in the nfc and , in my opinion, lavar would have flurished in greg william's defensive system.

02-10-2005, 09:21 PM	#38
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Would LaVar make the skins D better? Of course. Is he going to make it so much better he's worth the dough? Probably not! He's an athletic linebacker and a personallity. He's easily marketable (besides being a real cock when it comes to letting anyone use his name, etc) and pretends like he wants to be a leader. He's a good player, and I like him, but he's high on the overrated list. He's well above par, but he's sitting #2 or #3 on my overrated list. Ray Lewis has the #1 seed all taken care of with a year that really wasn't good and since he's Ray Lewis gets all the credit in the world for it.

02-11-2005, 09:05 AM	#39
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Every team has their share of 'overrated players'. I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of Bears fans that think Urlacher is overrated, Dolphins fans that think Zack Thomas is overrated, Redskins errr I mean Broncos fans that think Bailey is overrated, etc. Personally I'm a big LaVar fan, he's probably my favorite current Redskin if I had to name one.

02-11-2005, 08:35 PM	#41
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	[QUOTE=offiss] There's a poll, who would trade Lavar, for Pepper's? It would take me about 1/2 a second to send Lavar packing for that one. yea, and when peppers gets hurt you'll probably want to trade him away too.

02-11-2005, 08:52 PM	#42
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	heh, LaVar has been labeled overrated for some time. He's exciting to watch and has a personallity like McNabb's that draws the media to him. However, Peppers is an amazing player who would impact our defense more. I'd like to see a poll on who you'd take - peppers or lavar. It would be interesting (assuming no salary cap implications, etc.)

02-11-2005, 09:00 PM	#43
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	that would be a tough poll to answer because peppers is , without a doubt, a very good player but i just have to see lavar play a full season in greg williams system before i could even think about trading him.

02-12-2005, 09:11 AM	#44
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Well, it's not a fair comparison since they don't play the same position, but if I had the choice, salary cap concerns aside, of course I would take Peppers. I may be a LaVar fanboy but I'm not a boneheaded fanboy. I think it's a bit of a stretch to single out LaVar as the most overrated player in the game, I can think of plenty of guys who are more overrated.

02-12-2005, 09:22 AM	#45
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	offiss, has there ever been a time when you thought lavar was not overrated ? like the time lavar single handedly turned the skins season around with an interception return for a touchdown against the panthers or when he ended troy aikman's football career or is your hatred for lavar because you don't like penn state. by the way , the most overrated player in football is currently M.VICK !

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