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Old 02-14-2005, 03:20 PM   #76
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How's are defense been with Lavar on the field? We haven't stopped anyone, with Lavar out this year we were #1 most of the year and finished in the top 3, and what a comparison for Lavar to an undrafted journeymen in Marshall, .
LAVAR BEING OUT DIDN'T MAKE OUR DEFENSE BETTER I THINK YOUR THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS THREAD THAT THINKS THAT AND IF ANYONE ELSE FEELS THIS WAY SAY SO CLEARLY. WILLIAMS IS THE SOLE REASON WHY WE ARE BETTER NOT BECAUSE OUR BEST PLAYER IS SITTING OUT
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Old 02-14-2005, 03:23 PM   #77
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what he is saying is that every player who played on the skins defense this past year played better than they ever have before , they all improved. it is fair to say lavar would have improved just as well. and he was already the best defensive player on the team.
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BigSKINBauer - your capital letters gets really annoying. It's not necessary. We'll read your post without them. There's no need to make punctuation harsh on the eyes.

We made a lot of big changes to our defense. Springs, Taylor, Washington, Daniels, Griffen, etc. I'm not taking anything away from Greg Williams, he has done an amazing job everywhere he's gone, but I feel we added a lot of talent to our defense too. I think Offiss has said that we'd be better off with LaVar in. However his contract doesn't measure up to his play. He's the highest paid linebacker in sports, and I'd be curious for someone to ask Williams who he'd rather have. Takeo Spikes or Lavar Arrington, maybe I can remember that for Joe's camp interviews! Lavar isn't exactly a "team player" see Marvin Lewis's defense. He'd complain about getting in the 3 point stance, always wants to freelance, etc. He has some big attitude changes to be a top LB in the league as far as I'm concerned.
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In fairness to LaVar though, he did say last summer that he was wrong to question Marvin Lewis and understands now why he wanted him to play the way he did. So I think he has matured. Guess we'll find out soon enough
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Old 02-14-2005, 06:39 PM   #80
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OFFISS straight up are we better with lavar or not, I think you will answer yes but if not just give the reasons and even if you say yes do you think that we will improve significantly or not?

By the way this is a very fun thread
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what he is saying is that every player who played on the skins defense this past year played better than they ever have before , they all improved. it is fair to say lavar would have improved just as well. and he was already the best defensive player on the team.
Thankyou wolf you just summed up in 60 words what I couldn't in a couple hundred!
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Old 02-14-2005, 07:03 PM   #82
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offiss- Smoot one of my favorite players I don't want to see him go, he does bring the emotion and this year has proved that he can talk the smack and back it up. BUT he did talk about his contract during the season, many of us knew that Smoots last game may have been that Dallas game after the end of the game. Smoot also said something along the lines that him coming back was the decision of the front office and that he wanted to come back. He didn't talk alot about it but I definatly heard more FROM HIM during the season than I did after, most of the newspapers I read still use all the old quotes and just repeat the same stuff. As free agency is nearing i hope that he will sign, i won't blame him for trying for more money but i think that if we do not offer more he should sign with us. he spoke to bailey (so much for an unbiased source) and bailey said that he was unwanted when he was with the redskins. But bailey did say to find a team with both the money and the a good coaching staff and game. I think that many defensive players would love to play for a defense so that is so amazing and i can't think of much a better coaching staff in the league. I hope that smoot is JUST lobbing for extra cash and that would be fine I would most likely do the same but if he is truely willing to leave then I would have to say that I definiatly do not advocate what he is doing
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Of course Smoot will talk to Bailey. He was the guy who helped him out when he first got here, and being traded doesn't cut off friendships. I think Smoot wants to be here, but I think he should also worry about the cash. I feel the Redskins will make him a fair offer, but I can't blame a guy for shopping himself. It'll kill me if Dallas gets him though!
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Old 02-15-2005, 03:01 AM   #84
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Ok I lavar is there last year
we could have won 3 games on defense
so our standing is better

lavar is a difference maker
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Ok I lavar is there last year
we could have won 3 games on defense
so our standing is better

lavar is a difference maker
We could have won 3 games on defense huh? Please tell me how.
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We could have won 3 games on defense huh? Please tell me how.
Exactly. Its not like Lamar Marshall stunk up the joint and was responsible for a ton of bad plays that cost us games. He played very well on defense; he wasent spectacular, but he didnt mess up either. There is no way LaVar would have been a 3 game swing, I doubt he would have even been a one game swing. All the games we lost defensivley were the results of blown coverage in the secondary (Clark, Taylor ) come to mind in the two Dallas games, which are the only games I can really stare at our defense for. Exactly which games would he have been a difference maker?

Look, I friggin love LaVar. I got his jersey, he was the first guy I went out to see at training camp to get his John Handcock. I love the way he goes about his business. I disagree with some of the more adiement posters, such as Offiss, where are very against him, but their opinion is very valid, and I understand where they are coming from. Are we a better team with LaVar on the feild, 100% absolutley, I dont think anyone is denying that. However, you're giving him way too much credit. One INT returned for a TD like 4 years ago, isnt going to translate into a THREE GAME SWING in one year.
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:29 PM   #87
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well we could have won like 14 totlal games if our offense was to score more than 21 points,, for the record i never said nothing about us being 9-7 with lavar, I don't think any single player could account for that.
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:34 PM   #88
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Of course Smoot will talk to Bailey. He was the guy who helped him out when he first got here, and being traded doesn't cut off friendships.
dont take a line and do what the media did to gibbs saying he wanted to leave. I was almost advocating what bailey said as he told smoot to find a place that has a good coaching staff
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Check for redskins- Our defense is a very prideful defense that did oustanding and many players would love to play for a defense in which they are able to make a name for themselves.
and somewhere that pays alot
BIG BIG CHECK- I just hope that he will accept what we are giving or I am willing to sart up a charity drive for smoot. Donations to keep smoot here. We would give 100% of the procedes to him.

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Old 02-15-2005, 04:37 PM   #89
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Lets not hate on LaVar for the money offsiss, in all fairness if we can't do that with smoot we can't flip it and reverse it on Lavar. LaVar got himself that amazing deal just as smoot is trying to get himself an amazing deal.
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Old 02-15-2005, 05:13 PM   #90
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didn't lavar renegotiate his original contract ? the front office people wanted lavar to be a redskin for the rest of his career or at least close to it, kinda like ray lewis and baltimore did.
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