Return Of Lavar

KLHJ2

So all of the smart people agree. We keep LaVar!

Daseal

angrryssg - We can't trade Lavar - that's not the issue. Read through the thread before putting in something that has been discussed over and over again. I'm sure you're the next coming of Thomas Edison, but what classifies people as "smart" for thinking Lavar deserves his contract? He's a whiner, he refuses to step up and take a leadership role, and he's the highest paid linebacker in football.

And BigSKINBauer. You did say that LaVar would have won 3 games had he been playing for us. Don't deny it, just stop making claims you can't defend in a last ditch effort to defend your failing point.

KLHJ2

I appologize for not being able to navigate through the forums like the rest of you pros. I think that I am up to speed now. Unfortunately you don't get paid alot of money in the NFL for being a leader. Players get paid based on their playmaking ability. Sad but true. Many true leaders on a football team stand on the sidelines, they are the vets, the well seasoned guys who for one reason or another are not the starter anymore, but that is their place on the team. This usualy happens when a younger potential starter gets a spot on the team. They push the leaders out to pasture. My case is that Lavar may not be a leader yet, but give it time and he will be.

wolfeskins

hey offiss, i think you and i could turn turn this into "the return of brunnell" thread. i agree with you when you say brunnell played the worst 9 games of any qb in history but the contract he signed was not the # 1 factor in gibbs decission to keep him in that long. it was because gibbs , for whatever reason, loved brunnell and was defending him week after week after week. gibbs was positive that brunnell was the perfect qb to run his offense and he was just waiting and hoping that his dreams would come true.if brunnell would have came to washington and signed a one year contract for the league minimum, he still would have been the starter. gibbs couldn't and still can't admit he made a mistake in getting brunnell.

KLHJ2

Well obviously he is not answering you, but I will. I agree with you 100% burnell was supposed to be his match made in heaven, but remember when Coach Gibbs said that he would have never come back if he didn't believe that Ramsey couldn't become the starter. Ramsey is the future now.

wolfeskins

i don't think gibbs ever had any intention of starting ramsey until maybe gibbs' 2nd year but with brunnells horrid play and the pressure gibbs was getting for it gibbs had to make a change.



offiss will answer, he's just not on line right now.

KLHJ2

You are correct according to plan Ramsey would not have come into play until later. As far as your buddy not being online I dont know.

CRT3

And who did we have at the time of Lavaars signning at linebacker? Jesse Armstead and Jermiah Trotter. We go rid of old dead wood that was costing us a ton of cash. We spent more cash on the linebackers Arrington 1st then Barrow and Washington. 2 of the 3 were out with injuries and we had back ups step up. They did not know the backups would play above themselves and they did not know that 2 years ago when they resigned Lavaar.

So the question remains would we be a better football team with Lavaar? Character, athletic ability, and dominance as a football player clearly wins. He is better then any other backer out there.

Mattyk

I really have to disagree, I think Taylor and Arrington are so much alike in their playing styles it's not even funny. Taylor had a good rookie year, better than Arrington's 11 sack season a couple years ago? I don't think so.

They're both very aggressive and instinctive players who are going to make some spectacular plays. They're also both going to commit their share of whiffs on tackles and boneheaded penalties. Both of them are so physically gifted I think they tend to rely on their physical skills more than the mental portion of their game.

I really don't see what's different about the way they both play and approach the game.

CRT3

What position has he played the last 3 years He has been bounced from part time end on 3rd down, to the SAM, and back to the Weak. So which position are you basing your opion on? JEFF GEORGE, are you seriuosly using him as a comparison to Lavaar? GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK< THAT IS JUST PLAIN STUPID!!!

[/QUOTE]By the way who is he better than? On our own team he may not be better than M. Washington, and he certainly doesn't have the football smart's of Pierce, I have to assume you were talking about our LB's, that statement couldn't have been broad enough to include the rest of the NFL..[/QUOTE]
He is better then Washington and Pierce. Ath the time of his signing the mega contract he clearly was the best. He is a top 5 linebacker in the NFL, and I think you could rate Spikes, Brookings, Lewis, and Urlacher up with him. Grant it they all play different linebacker positions.

[/QUOTE]Take a good look at Sean Taylor now there's a football player, he had a better rookie season than any 1 of Lavar's season's. Taylor is what happen's when you combine athletic ability with football smart's in which Lavar is lacking.[/QUOTE] And he provide how many football smart plays? Did he recieve a few unsportmanlike penalties? Did he get benched during the season. Did he start every game? Did he turn one game around and to enable us to win?

Mattyk

LaVar is one of the top 10 LB's in the game, can you at least agree with that, offiss?

If you agree I'm not sure what we're all arguing about or why this thread has lasted so long. LOL

Mattyk

Not much we can do about his contract now though except hope he begins to live up to it.

Redskins_P

Does this mean that this thread is officially over? j/k