Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade

skinsfan69 · 04-18-2012, 10:29 PM

I'm all for giving guys a 2nd chance but Talib is a train wreck. I hope we don't bring him here.

gangstalicious · 04-19-2012, 12:32 AM

I'm down for Talib.

DynamiteRave · 04-19-2012, 01:59 AM

Bring him here for a 1 or 2 year (at most) deal as a trial. If he ends up stinking or not keeping his nose clean, cut him lose.

imaskin4life · 04-19-2012, 07:59 AM

Talib not an option:

Buccaneers Head Coach Greg Schiano Shuts Down Aqib Talib Trade Rumors | Bleacher Report

#56fanatic · 04-19-2012, 08:49 AM

I would stay as far away from this kid as possible. He has way too many issues that overshadow the talent. Plus we seem to have a decent locker room, just wouldn't want to add him to the mix. Plus if he came here, he would seem to be one of those guys that play a year at a high level and then hold out for ridiculous money and cause another issue. I'd just stay away from him.
seems to be an immature idiot that blames everyone and everything on his problems.

Mattyk · 04-19-2012, 09:04 AM

Talib is definitely the exact opposite kind of guy we've been trying to build the team up with. I know we're just speculating but I don't see it happening.

FRPLG · 04-19-2012, 09:10 AM

Talib is a jackass. He's a serious NFW in my book. I don't care how good he is.

NC_Skins · 04-19-2012, 09:30 AM

It's fine if you want to take a risk on a guy, but taking risks on several guys at the same time will most likely spell disaster.

Let's look at the current. We potentially have 2 starters that are a piss test away from a year suspension. Huge risks to say the least. Bringing in another starter who could potentially be doing time or suspended is another huge risk. So, you have to ask yourself is it worth potentially losing 3 starters just on stupidity alone?

Not in my book.

CRedskinsRule · 04-19-2012, 10:00 AM

Question, is there a length of time before the 3rd strike goes away? I mean TW is a young guy obviously, and that is a heck of a hammer hanging over the rest of his career. Let's say he plays clean for the rest of this contract and his next one, he would be about 30, would he still be facing a year suspension on a failed test? Or does it reset after x number of years?

NC_Skins · 04-19-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Question, is there a length of time before the 3rd strike goes away? I mean TW is a young guy obviously, and that is a heck of a hammer hanging over the rest of his career. Let's say he plays clean for the rest of this contract and his next one, he would be about 30, would he still be facing a year suspension on a failed test? Or does it reset after x number of years?

It does appear that their drug intervention program allows them to reset the record (so to speak) if they go through Drug Stage 2 intervention without going to Stage 3 will be cleared. I think stage 2 lasts two years. If they are in stage 3 of the program, then they will not get to reset their records from the looks of it. Since they've failed 3 drug tests, they very well could be in Stage 3 and they have to be clean the rest of their career.

Quote:

Completion of Stage Two: A player who completes Stage Two
without being advanced to Stage Three will be afforded the same
status as a player who had never by Behavior or a Positive Test
been referred to the Intervention Stages.

Also to note. If a player is in stage 3, he's in it for the rest of his career so no mulligans it looks like.

Quote:

Term: A player in Stage Three will remain in Stage Three
for the remainder of his NFL career.

http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaRe...g%20Policy.pdf

mooby · 04-19-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No, this isn't like a driving record where the tickets go off the record in three years. These infractions follow them the rest of their career in the NFL.

He could go 9 years and fail a drug test and he'll still be suspended 1 year because he's had prior infractions.

:/ Three years into his career and we're already facing the threat of losing two key players for a year due to drug abuse (and we have to live with that threat for the rest of their careers). I hope TW and FD pan out, I really do, but damn if they aren't idiots.

CRedskinsRule · 04-19-2012, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No, this isn't like a driving record where the tickets go off the record in three years. These infractions follow them the rest of their career in the NFL.

He could go 9 years and fail a drug test and he'll still be suspended 1 year because he's had prior infractions.

thanks

NC_Skins · 04-19-2012, 10:12 AM

Gaffney has damaged his own trade value - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

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Gaffney told Russell that going into last year’s Week 7 game in Carolina, the plan was for him to have a diminished role with Anthony Armstrong and Donté Stallworth going in as the two-deep at the X receiver position and Gaffney backing up Santana Moss at Z.

Gaffney said, “my head wasn’t in the game” due to the demotion and he committed a key fumble near the end of the first half that helped turn the game in the Panthers’ favor. Carolina won going away in the second half.

Everybody fumbles now and then but not having your head in the game because you were bumped down on the depth chart is inexcusable in the eyes of most coaches. It was an extraordinary admission for a veteran player who should know better.

As it turned out, Moss suffered a broken hand in the game, giving Gaffney back the starting job. He ended up playing 871 of the team’s 1,103 offensive plays, far more than any other receiver. But the notion that he was moping on the bench will not help his trade value.

SmootSmack · 04-19-2012, 10:14 AM

And he ruined John Beck's blossoming career in the process!!!

mooby · 04-19-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And he ruined John Beck's blossoming career in the process!!!

I think that's what I'll remember the most about this sad ordeal. Remembering how much we gave up for John Beck only for him to not pan out. Boy did the Ravens make out like bandits in that trade.

04-18-2012, 10:29 PM	#31
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade I'm all for giving guys a 2nd chance but Talib is a train wreck. I hope we don't bring him here.

04-19-2012, 12:32 AM	#32
gangstalicious Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 38	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade I'm down for Talib.

04-19-2012, 01:59 AM	#33
DynamiteRave Franchise Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 26 Posts: 9,805	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade Bring him here for a 1 or 2 year (at most) deal as a trial. If he ends up stinking or not keeping his nose clean, cut him lose. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I'm a chick, damnit.

04-19-2012, 07:59 AM	#34
imaskin4life Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 283	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade Talib not an option: Buccaneers Head Coach Greg Schiano Shuts Down Aqib Talib Trade Rumors \| Bleacher Report

04-19-2012, 08:49 AM	#35
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 38 Posts: 1,788	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade I would stay as far away from this kid as possible. He has way too many issues that overshadow the talent. Plus we seem to have a decent locker room, just wouldn't want to add him to the mix. Plus if he came here, he would seem to be one of those guys that play a year at a high level and then hold out for ridiculous money and cause another issue. I'd just stay away from him. seems to be an immature idiot that blames everyone and everything on his problems.

04-19-2012, 09:04 AM	#36
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,693	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade Talib is definitely the exact opposite kind of guy we've been trying to build the team up with. I know we're just speculating but I don't see it happening. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-19-2012, 09:10 AM	#37
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade Talib is a jackass. He's a serious NFW in my book. I don't care how good he is.

04-19-2012, 09:30 AM	#38
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,284	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade It's fine if you want to take a risk on a guy, but taking risks on several guys at the same time will most likely spell disaster. Let's look at the current. We potentially have 2 starters that are a piss test away from a year suspension. Huge risks to say the least. Bringing in another starter who could potentially be doing time or suspended is another huge risk. So, you have to ask yourself is it worth potentially losing 3 starters just on stupidity alone? Not in my book. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

04-19-2012, 10:00 AM	#39
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,907	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade Question, is there a length of time before the 3rd strike goes away? I mean TW is a young guy obviously, and that is a heck of a hammer hanging over the rest of his career. Let's say he plays clean for the rest of this contract and his next one, he would be about 30, would he still be facing a year suspension on a failed test? Or does it reset after x number of years?

04-19-2012, 10:14 AM	#44
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,102	Re: Jabar Gaffney Told to Seek A Trade And he ruined John Beck's blossoming career in the process!!! __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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