filmed so close

FrenchSkin · 04-23-2012, 03:06 AM

Back with another rookie question:
Why is it that football games are filmed so closed up?
I find it very frustrating not to be able to see anything of what's going on between the receivers and the secondary. Most of the time we only see the QB behind his O-line, and sometimes he throws, sometimes he doesn't, sometimes the receiver catches the ball, sometimes not... but you never know why! Because you didn't see anything!
I know they are trying to show impressive images but they could do that during the replays...

Long story short, does somebody know a good reason for that way of filming football?

Giantone · 04-23-2012, 07:20 AM

Why they film it like they do,becuase it's the way the fans want it.Grant it maybe not eveyone but they (mostlyNFL films) tries to bring you the fan right into all the action ,and with technology being what it is it's almost possible.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 04-23-2012, 10:04 AM

Take Your Eye Off the Ball - Playbook Edition | Pat Kirwan

I am not one to plug things on the forum, but this is Pat Kerwin's book. He is a radio show host on Sirius NFL Radio. His show is called moving the chains, and him and Tim Ryan do an excellent job of breaking down the game. I have not read it fully, but I can tell you this book would answer most of your questions as to why this happened and this didn't. It will also allow you to watch the game from an educated view. Check it out it is really good stuff.

If you are able to get Sirius over there I would and listen to thier show, I believe it would start at approx 9pm your time (it starts at 3 pm EST here in the States).

That Guy · 04-23-2012, 10:08 AM

ye olde timey games were farther away, i imagine most people want to see it closer up, so that's how they shoot it.

when they stream games (like nbc has i think?) the internet gives you 4 or 5 views to pull from, including a wide shot.

SBXVII · 04-23-2012, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

ye olde timey games were farther away, i imagine most people want to see it closer up, so that's how they shoot it.

when they stream games (like nbc has i think?) the internet gives you 4 or 5 views to pull from, including a wide shot.

I think your right. In the old days the camera was up high and you could see everything but the NFL wants to get you the fan up close and personal. Most of it is them trying to follow the ball up close but passes are usually faster then the cameraman can follow. So you might see the zoom in on the ball, then the zoom out for the play, then the zoom back in for the catch. I always like the camera behind the play so you could see the drop back and pass and catch. Then they could show us the other angles in replays.

Alvin Walton · 04-23-2012, 10:54 AM

granted

mredskins · 04-23-2012, 10:57 AM

the worst is NHL Rangers games. The position of the camera MSG is awful!

Lotus · 04-23-2012, 11:24 AM

Good question Frenchskin. It is frustrating to not see what is off-camera. However, I suppose that if the camera took in more of the field, it would be more difficult to see line play, especially on a small screen.

Mattyk · 04-23-2012, 11:26 AM

I think with any sport on TV they try to make you feel like you're part of the action.

I hate some college basketball arenas that have the super high camera angle.

That Guy · 04-23-2012, 03:31 PM

luckily we're moving to an age were you can get different feeds streaming to your browser. I've seen NBC do it for olympics and the winter classic maybe? can't remember, but i think i saw it done on some postseason games, and csn did it with the ovech-cam.

yay technology.

SkinsHulk · 04-23-2012, 03:48 PM

Like Madden, I think the camera should be positioned behind the QB. Growing up and playing both Free/Strong safety I never could see what the position does and even how to c

SkinsHulk · 04-23-2012, 03:53 PM

Really? Con't:
Can't see what WR do. Watching games on tv is annoying when they show 10-15 yards of useless field behind the QB ( dumbass fox sports). The whole experience needs to be revolutionized. Put the camera behind the QB and let people enjoy seeing OL blocking.
It's a no brainer to me- Why do they televise the same angle of Tecmo Superbowl ( GOAT)????? If the game is now Goodell's NFL and no longer football in the sake of luring in kids/women (people who don't understand or even like all aspects of the game) than why spoon feed the same useless presentation? IMO

Meks · 04-23-2012, 03:56 PM

Being at the games is an EYE OPENING experience.... like how many wide.open receivers.john Beck didn't are.against the NINERS... how piss effing poor he actually is comes thru alot better in person.. smh that's a win if rex.is.in IMO. REFER to the.sig.

mlmpetert · 04-23-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

ye olde timey games were farther away, i imagine most people want to see it closer up, so that's how they shoot it.

when they stream games (like nbc has i think?) the internet gives you 4 or 5 views to pull from, including a wide shot.

What is this you speak of?!? It sounds amazing

Mattyk · 04-23-2012, 04:00 PM

NBC does it with SNF

04-23-2012, 03:06 AM	#1
FrenchSkin Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Paris, France Posts: 90	filmed so close Back with another rookie question: Why is it that football games are filmed so closed up? I find it very frustrating not to be able to see anything of what's going on between the receivers and the secondary. Most of the time we only see the QB behind his O-line, and sometimes he throws, sometimes he doesn't, sometimes the receiver catches the ball, sometimes not... but you never know why! Because you didn't see anything! I know they are trying to show impressive images but they could do that during the replays... Long story short, does somebody know a good reason for that way of filming football? __________________ Is there another french fan of the redskins?

04-23-2012, 07:20 AM	#2
Giantone Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,666	Re: filmed so close Why they film it like they do,becuase it's the way the fans want it.Grant it maybe not eveyone but they (mostlyNFL films) tries to bring you the fan right into all the action ,and with technology being what it is it's almost possible. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

04-23-2012, 10:04 AM	#3
artmonkforhallofamein07 HST - "Hey Rube" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 3,906	Re: filmed so close Take Your Eye Off the Ball - Playbook Edition \| Pat Kirwan I am not one to plug things on the forum, but this is Pat Kerwin's book. He is a radio show host on Sirius NFL Radio. His show is called moving the chains, and him and Tim Ryan do an excellent job of breaking down the game. I have not read it fully, but I can tell you this book would answer most of your questions as to why this happened and this didn't. It will also allow you to watch the game from an educated view. Check it out it is really good stuff. If you are able to get Sirius over there I would and listen to thier show, I believe it would start at approx 9pm your time (it starts at 3 pm EST here in the States). __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/

04-23-2012, 10:08 AM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,620	Re: filmed so close ye olde timey games were farther away, i imagine most people want to see it closer up, so that's how they shoot it. when they stream games (like nbc has i think?) the internet gives you 4 or 5 views to pull from, including a wide shot. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

04-23-2012, 10:54 AM	#6
Alvin Walton Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 3,857	Re: filmed so close granted __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968 CHARTER MEMEBER OF THE DALLAS SWEEPERS CLUB

04-23-2012, 10:57 AM	#7
mredskins Franchise Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7,947	Re: filmed so close the worst is NHL Rangers games. The position of the camera MSG is awful! __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

04-23-2012, 11:24 AM	#8
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: filmed so close Good question Frenchskin. It is frustrating to not see what is off-camera. However, I suppose that if the camera took in more of the field, it would be more difficult to see line play, especially on a small screen. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

04-23-2012, 11:26 AM	#9
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,656	Re: filmed so close I think with any sport on TV they try to make you feel like you're part of the action. I hate some college basketball arenas that have the super high camera angle. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-23-2012, 03:31 PM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,620	Re: filmed so close luckily we're moving to an age were you can get different feeds streaming to your browser. I've seen NBC do it for olympics and the winter classic maybe? can't remember, but i think i saw it done on some postseason games, and csn did it with the ovech-cam. yay technology. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

04-23-2012, 03:48 PM	#11
SkinsHulk Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 65	Re: filmed so close Like Madden, I think the camera should be positioned behind the QB. Growing up and playing both Free/Strong safety I never could see what the position does and even how to c

04-23-2012, 03:53 PM	#12
SkinsHulk Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 65	Re: filmed so close Really? Con't: Can't see what WR do. Watching games on tv is annoying when they show 10-15 yards of useless field behind the QB ( dumbass fox sports). The whole experience needs to be revolutionized. Put the camera behind the QB and let people enjoy seeing OL blocking. It's a no brainer to me- Why do they televise the same angle of Tecmo Superbowl ( GOAT)????? If the game is now Goodell's NFL and no longer football in the sake of luring in kids/women (people who don't understand or even like all aspects of the game) than why spoon feed the same useless presentation? IMO

04-23-2012, 03:56 PM	#13
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: filmed so close Being at the games is an EYE OPENING experience.... like how many wide.open receivers.john Beck didn't are.against the NINERS... how piss effing poor he actually is comes thru alot better in person.. smh that's a win if rex.is.in IMO. REFER to the.sig. __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

04-23-2012, 04:00 PM	#15
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,656	Re: filmed so close NBC does it with SNF __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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