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Old 05-14-2012, 07:44 AM   #226
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So not having a playbook in college is a ______ thing?


Common, and its getting catchy in high school fb especially down south. Im not a fan of the full blown no huddle-o. I liked how Manning uses it to catch the D off guard and i think those situations would really benefit RG3. But other than that i think it puts as much fatigue on the O as the D.
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:06 AM   #227
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One things for sure, I'm definitely rooting for him to get it right with Griffin just to shut up the haters who want the Shannies fired.
So you are acknowledging in this statement that the Shanahans have yet to "get it right", but the pragmatists who are calling for results over fluff are "haters". Not to mention the word "just", implies that you don't want to see improvement for the sake of validating Griffen, the morale of the team and the fan base, or success of the organization as a whole, it's solely for the purpose of authenticating your position over the people who have merit in their disagreement.

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Old 05-14-2012, 11:14 AM   #228
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The no-huddle offense is a weapon in and of itself. It's also something we haven't done (well) during my adulthood. If Griffin can effectively run it half the time this year will be tons of fun.
Yep, I could see him racking up 12-men penalties and offsides on our opponents' defenses. RGIII even mentioned this on the Gruden QB camp interview, how he loves to get his team lined up and snap the ball when he sees the D trying to substitute.

He can handle it. He's smart enough to look at a defense and call a play in a hurry.
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:07 PM   #229
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So you are acknowledging in this statement that the Shanahans have yet to "get it right", but the pragmatists who are calling for results over fluff are "haters". Not to mention the word "just", implies that you don't want to see improvement for the sake of validating Griffen, the morale of the team and the fan base, or success of the organization as a whole, it's solely for the purpose of authenticating your position over the people who have merit in their disagreement.
I could argue with you, but I'm tired and dgaf. You win.
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I could argue with you, but I'm tired and dgaf. You win.
Yeah what's up with everyone trying to outwit everyone? We wall wanna see the skins win and to be honest I doubt any of us care who's playing or coaching as long as we win
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:53 PM   #231
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I could argue with you, but I'm tired and dgaf. You win.
I don't want to win. I'm also not trying to incite a arguement. I'm trying to resolve one by helping you to see both sides of the coin.
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...He can handle it. He's smart enough to look at a defense and call a play in a hurry.
I got no questions about whether Griffin can handle the no huddle.
I love talking about the no-huddle in abstract but I don't see how or why people think we would use it more often.
In the past this offense (Mike/Kyle) hasn't been a no huddle offense.
And if we're speaking honestly the performance in 2 minute and hurry has been lacking regardless of the QB (McNabb/Rex).
With McNabb the excuse was he didn't know the offense with Rex there was no excuse. (equipment malfunction?)
I'm sure Kyle will improve with his hurry-up/2 minute offense/playcalling as he gains experience but I think its a hellavu strecth to think we're suddenly going to become a no huddle offense from what we've seen and where we are thus far.
I think its far more likely that they'll work to increase the tempo i.e. get in and out of the huddle quickly, get to the line quickly with time on the playclock etc.

If I were gambling on a team likely to run the type of offense some fans think we'll run (up tempo, no-huddle, with some zone-read, WCO) I would look at the Dolphins.
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Yeah what's up with everyone trying to outwit everyone? We wall wanna see the skins win and to be honest I doubt any of us care who's playing or coaching as long as we win
I'm completely with you pigskin, as long as this franchise prospers I don't care who the coach is, and I was trying to get mooby on board with this line of thinking. Unfortunately we haven't been winning under this regime, and people who base their position on the facts shouldn't be considered any less loyal then people who attach themselves to this coaching staff.
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:29 PM   #234
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Yeah I mean I like mike shanahan. He's done things I liked an thing I hated that have not us in the ass. However I trust that he's doing his best to win and wants to win just like all of us. If the team did everything I wanted I'm
Sure we wouldn't win a SB lol so you just gotta take good with the bad and be patient. If god came to me an said the skins will never win another game, I'd still watch every Sunday bc I bleed the burgundy and gold and I think any Sunday we can beat anyone
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He's done things I liked an thing I hated that have not us in the ass
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I'm completely with you pigskin, as long as this franchise prospers I don't care who the coach is, and I was trying to get mooby on board with this line of thinking. Unfortunately we haven't been winning under this regime, and people who base their position on the facts shouldn't be considered any less loyal then people who attach themselves to this coaching staff.
If you want to base things on facts, maybe we should start with the fact that the franchise has gone the route of switching coaching regimes every two or three years, and it has gotten them nowhere. If we continue to base things on fact, we see that there are no other coaches available, who want to come to Washington, that possesses the resume that Mike Shanahan possesses. If we want to, yet, continue to base things on facts, the fact is, Mike Shanahan stated from the very beginning that it would take him the length of his contract to rebuild this team the right way, and if Snyder was not interested in being patient, then don't hire him, (or something to that affect.) The fact is, Redskins fans are very impatient. Couple that with today's instant gratification that people have become accustomed to, and it makes for a lot of fans who would be dangerous if they were the owner of the Washington Redskins. I trust the current regime, as painful as it's been on Sundays, the Shannies will get this team back to where it needs to be. And if by the end of year five and that isn't true, then move on to the next regime.
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If you want to base things on facts, maybe we should start with the fact that the franchise has gone the route of switching coaching regimes every two or three years, and it has gotten them nowhere. If we continue to base things on fact, we see that there are no other coaches available, who want to come to Washington, that possesses the resume that Mike Shanahan possesses. If we want to, yet, continue to base things on facts, the fact is, Mike Shanahan stated from the very beginning that it would take him the length of his contract to rebuild this team the right way, and if Snyder was not interested in being patient, then don't hire him, (or something to that affect.) The fact is, Redskins fans are very impatient. Couple that with today's instant gratification that people have become accustomed to, and it makes for a lot of fans who would be dangerous if they were the owner of the Washington Redskins. I trust the current regime, as painful as it's been on Sundays, the Shannies will get this team back to where it needs to be. And if by the end of year five and that isn't true, then move on to the next regime.

IMO this man gets it.

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Old 05-14-2012, 03:43 PM   #238
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Franchises like the Lions and Bengals have been turned around completely in three years and (especially w/ Detroit) starting way further down in terms of talent than Mike inherited in Washington. He chose to make the transition even harder by blowing up the defense.

Point is good coaches have shown three years is sufficient to turn a franchise around. If Mike can't get to .500 this year it high time to move on. If he can't compete for a division title next year it will be time to move on. The notion we won't find a better coach is absurd. Mike has made myriad mistakes here already that are on him and him alone...starting this year the results fall on his shoulders and it's time to put the legacy argument to bed.
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stability is important to me. did he sign a 4 year contract? 5 year contract? give him the length of the contract
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I think the problem is Snyder. Get rid of him and everything will change but we cannot
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