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Old 05-16-2012, 11:45 AM   #16
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

To avoid being redundant, I'll take a different spin on each of their strengths...

Hightower-His best attribute is effort. He's not the fastest, not the quickest or shiftiest. He also doesn't do anything GREAT but he does lots of things really well. He's got a nice short distance burst so he can get through holes. He catches well enough to be conscious of but not concerned with as a defense. He's is a tenacious blocker which is all effort and technique. He sets up his cuts well by maintaining good balance.

Helu-His best attribute (other than speed) is getting the extra yard. It took me a while to come around on this part of his game last season but I noticed that almost every time he falls forward. Getting that forward lean and push can get a few extra yards per game and extend drives. He also has excellent balance but his main shortcoming leads me into Royster's strength...

Royster-His best attribute is vision. He seems to find holes and cutback lanes better than either Helu or Hightower. With our scheme, holes appear and disappear quickly and a runner needs to be able to make a quick decision and hit it quickly. Royster showed that ability as his carries increased. He lacks home run speed or elite balance and fell at a Portis like rate. If Helu had his vision or Royster had his athleticism, we would have a superstar.
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:02 PM   #17
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Royster does tend to lose his balance a lot, hopefully he can improve on that.
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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Royster does tend to lose his balance a lot, hopefully he can improve on that.
He's got CP's disease. It just took CP 5000 yards to lose his balance(get scared).
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:30 PM   #19
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

i like hightower's style the best.

who the hell ran the ball for us in week 8 vs the bills?
*i really just completely forgot about torain. i was looking at the game logs for hightower, helu, and royster
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It's been so long since I've gotten a chance to see each back, that I've honestly forgotten what the differences are between the three. All I know is that both Helu and Royster were very effective with their running styles, and I'm not quite sure there is necessarily a best style, yet each one compliments the other. I think Hightower, if healthy, can still be a quite productive back, but I think he's going to do well to work himself back into the lineup.

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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

^^ Good video, see alot of potential in those two guys.
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:16 PM   #22
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Evan, Roy or Tim? or....... RG3! RG3 will end up with more rushing yards than the other 3.
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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Roy Helu and Evan Royster Rookie Highlights - YouTube

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Thanks for that video 30gut. I see some GREAT things from both Helu and Royster. It looks like Helu has a bit faster burst of speed, but Royster has pretty good vision in finding the running lanes. I DO think they are a great one/two punch. Would love to see both lined up in the backfield at once! Maybe a triple option type thing with RGIII!
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Evan, Roy or Tim? or....... RG3! RG3 will end up with more rushing yards than the other 3.
We are pretty f'ed if this happens, b/c it means that RG3 will get hit a lot.
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

I agree Ruh. I want to see him with a strong passing game and the threat to kill you with his feet. Strong arm, accuracy, vision, timing, and defense diagnostic skills to go with some speed that can kill you in the open field and move the chains.

I tend to agree with every one's assessments on the RBs. I like all three, and each bring something different to the table.

So is Morris moving to FB? I have not seen it confirmed.
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

I like Royster the best. He has the all around talents of Hightower and the production of Helu.
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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Between Roy Helu, Tim Hightower and Evan Royster we have 3 RBs capable of 100 yard production.

What do you think of each RBs style and which do you like the best?
The #1 thing I like about the 3 of them is that there are 3 of them. The days of the workhorse back are over. Super Bowls can be won with the likes of an elderly Corey Dillon, Willie Parker, Joseph Addai, etc. Young and cheap is the way to go. Any team whose highest paid player on Offense is a RB ( a la Clinton Portis) is going nowhere fast.

I vote for Helu, but say play who's healthy or who has the hot hand.
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Those highlights showed a lot of those inside toss run plays that really was an effective wrinkle to the run game. This offense is going to be amazing.
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Old 05-17-2012, 01:05 AM   #29
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

HT (if returns to 100%) good all around back (enters camp as the best pass protector), good but not great speed, can make the quick cutback, reads the running lanes well and will make the right choice but imo cannot take a consistent pounding (I don't think any of our backs are built like that) has the mentality but doesn't have the same power to run through contact like Helu

o My favorite of the trio is Helu because of decisiveness doesn't dance or dawdle, home run speed and his surprising ability to run through contact and break some tackles, can make the quick cutback

o I think Royster is the more fluid runner then Helu (imo Helu moves aren't as quick and tend to be somewhat herky-jerky but still very effective none the less) Evan has the best ability small area elusiveness however I think Royster lacks true home run speed and isn't as tough as runner
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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Roy Helu and Evan Royster Rookie Highlights - YouTube

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great highlights. Thanks

Watching them it sure seemed like our line was doing a good job of creating lanes at the line of scrimmage, and the runners did a good job of breaking the first guy's tackle.
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