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Old 05-17-2012, 08:43 AM   #31
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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TH- better all around RB if healthy... (can block, catch, runs hard, great blocker, great on field leadership.)
Helu- fastest RB of the 3, elusive, can catch, and a playmaker
Royster- Downhill runner, breaks tackles, arguably the most durable of the 3
I agree with this assessment.

I guess I like TH more than most on this board because he is a (almost) complete RB. I say almost because he doesn't provide much punch as a short yardage runner.

Helu has a lot of upside. It's up to him hwo good he wants to become. I'd like to see more long runs from him this season because I think he is capable of breaking some of them.

I'm not the biggest fan of Royster who I think is a plodder. Nevertheless, I must admit that he played much better than I thought he would/could last season. He deserves a lot of credit for that. Hopefully, he'll continue to improve.

I'm excited about Morris. I want to see what he can do for the Skins, particularly in short yardage and on ST.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:50 AM   #32
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

In Royster's two games he started, he had 245 yds on over 6 yds a carry. I'm not a fan of Helu's style as he seems to get a big run or get shut down, and hightower is coming of an ACL. My vote is Royster.
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:15 AM   #33
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

^^What you've said above pretty much constitutes character assassination for a RB
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

I don't recall seeing anything from him last year indicating he shies away from contact.
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:49 AM   #35
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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I will share this little bit about Royster. I grew up in the Northern VA area. Evan Royster was a star RB in the area from Westfield. There was a rumor going around the area that Royster was 'soft' and didn't like contact. I couldn't confirm or dispute that rumor. A few years passed and Royster was in the Rose Bowl, and most caries he got he ran toward the sidelines. Then he had that 'knee injury' in that game. I heard that his knee injury wasn't nothing more than a bruise on his knee. TV said it was an MCL sprain. But then those rumors came up again "Roysters soft" (from the NoVA crowd). Again these are rumors nothing is confirmed, nothing is denied, because theres some decent evidence on him. We drafted him last year and when I talked to my neighbor who works for the skins, I asked him what they thought of Royster. He said something along the lines of "We love him, we just hope he toughens up." Last year when Royster played I saw nothing definitive of him being shy of contact, nor dispute it either. (I did see his eyes get as big as his head when vince wilfork came jumping on him drawing a flag, but then again anyone in the league will be afraid of a 350lb man jumping on them while laying down.)

point is there is a possible question mark about a player on our team that may not like contact which is a huge problem in our league for a player at his position.
I suppose there are "soft" RBs in the league, but in this day where teams are mostly unwilling to pay long term for damaged goods, and for RBs in general(except true superstars), I don't know that the extra 1 to 2 yards gained, assuming it's not purposely missing a firstdown, is worth getting lit up by a LB crashing down on you. We as fans love the big hits, but I would rather see a back stay upright and step out then take a hit that is obviously coming.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:15 AM   #36
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

...does anyone smell a lil hateraide?
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:55 PM   #37
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

I haven't noticed Royster avoid contact, but it's not a worry regardless. Mike wouldn't stand for it, he expects his guys to play physical and obviously the RB has to run hard. Mike has always gotten great production from his runners. And he added another RB in this year's draft...I think we're pretty set at RB (because it's Mike S)
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:26 PM   #38
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Roy Helu and Evan Royster Rookie Highlights - YouTube

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Wow, I don't think i watched royster in the season. His two runs in this video against the eagles are disgusting. I hope he is actually good and it wasn't just because it was a meaningless game against the worst tackling secondary in the league.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:47 PM   #39
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I am so happy they brought back Timmy .. dude is all heart and will serve a great mentor to Helu/Roy ... it's scary how many smart decisions this football team is making ... having the 3 headed monster of Tim, Roy, and Evan is such a luxury. Not to mention Young at FB. Man I can't wait for season .. and I can't wait until MADDEN comes out
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

I think Helu is the starter this season and breaks 1,000 yards
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:40 PM   #41
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

If there was a RB skills list what would the main attributes be?


Size, Speed, Quickness, Toughness, Lateral Agility, Cutback ability, Vision, Catching, Pass Pro, Route Running, Durability, Power(break tackles), Juke (make people miss in space)
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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If there was a RB skills list what would the main attributes be?


Size, Speed, Quickness, Toughness, Lateral Agility, Cutback ability, Vision, Catching, Pass Pro, Route Running, Durability, Power(break tackles), Juke (make people miss in space)
in our scheme i'd have to say vision and cutback ability
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Wow, I don't think i watched royster in the season. His two runs in this video against the eagles are disgusting. I hope he is actually good and it wasn't just because it was a meaningless game against the worst tackling secondary in the league.
He also tore up the Vikings.

He's legit.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:42 AM   #44
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

i like tim if i had to go with one but what i really like is just picking athletic relatively cheap players to plug in .. burst of speed, one cut guys who can hang onto the balll .. i feel like tim gets the edge b/c he can catch out of the backfield and did well enough picking up blitzers on pass plays .. helu and royster could very well do that to just havent had as much of a chance to show it.

but i love the by committee approach and the production. tim went down, no prob we didnt miss a beat.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:19 PM   #45
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Helu. Period. Young burner who can take a hit, vision will only get better. He did that good his ROOKIE season, and has a solid work ethic. Helu FTW.
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