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Old 05-18-2012, 11:47 PM   #46
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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Wow, I don't think i watched royster in the season. His two runs in this video against the eagles are disgusting. I hope he is actually good and it wasn't just because it was a meaningless game against the worst tackling secondary in the league.
He also tore up the Vikings.

He's legit.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:42 AM   #47
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

i like tim if i had to go with one but what i really like is just picking athletic relatively cheap players to plug in .. burst of speed, one cut guys who can hang onto the balll .. i feel like tim gets the edge b/c he can catch out of the backfield and did well enough picking up blitzers on pass plays .. helu and royster could very well do that to just havent had as much of a chance to show it.

but i love the by committee approach and the production. tim went down, no prob we didnt miss a beat.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:19 PM   #48
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Helu. Period. Young burner who can take a hit, vision will only get better. He did that good his ROOKIE season, and has a solid work ethic. Helu FTW.
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:14 AM   #49
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Looking back on it, Helu could have rushed for over 1,000 yards had he been inserted into the lineup earlier in the season. It took Hightower to go down with a season ending injury for Helu to get a bulk load of the carries. But based on Royster's yard per carry average last season, I'd say he's the best of the three Redskin running backs.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:23 AM   #50
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Here's how I rate the backs on each skillset:
Rated on a point scale (3-1) where 3 is the highest

Helu......Hightower..........Royster
3................2....................1.......Size
3................2....................1.......Spee d
2................1....................3.......Quic kness
3................2....................1.......Toug hness
2................1....................3.......Late ral Agility
2................1....................3.......Cutb ack ability
3................3....................3........Vis ion
3................2..................1(?)......Catc hing
2................3..................1(?)......Pass Pro
3................2..................1(?)......Rout e Running
2................1....................?........Dur ability
3................2....................1.......Powe r(break tackles/run through contact)
2................1....................3.......Juke (make people miss in space)
2................3.....................1.......Lea dership/Locker room
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:59 PM   #51
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

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Here's how I rate the backs on each skillset:
Rated on a point scale (3-1) where 3 is the highest

Helu......Hightower..........Royster
3................2....................1.......Size
3................2....................1.......Spee d
2................1....................3.......Quic kness
3................2....................1.......Toug hness
2................1....................3.......Late ral Agility
2................1....................3.......Cutb ack ability
3................3....................3........Vis ion
3................2..................1(?)......Catc hing
2................3..................1(?)......Pass Pro
3................2..................1(?)......Rout e Running
2................1....................?........Dur ability
3................2....................1.......Powe r(break tackles/run through contact)
2................1....................3.......Juke (make people miss in space)
2................3.....................1.......Lea dership/Locker room
I'm not sure if you mixed the names or ratings on this but some of this doesn't make sense. Size - they're all similar in height and weight. Royster is the tallest and Hightower weighs the most so Helu doesn't deserve a 3. Hightower should be more powerful than Helu.
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I'm not sure if you mixed the names or ratings on this but some of this doesn't make sense. Size - they're all similar in height and weight. Royster is the tallest and Hightower weighs the most so Helu doesn't deserve a 3.
The rankings are simply a categorized numerical breakdown of my opinion.
I wouldn't and don't expect universal or even small scale agreement.
I'm sure if you were to use the same format (and I would love to see it if you wanted to post it)
to rate the backs it would be different from mine.
But, that difference wouldn't compel me to state that your rankings 'don't make sense' or 'player doesn't deserve rating X' or 'player X should have ranking X'

But to answer your questions:
Sure the backs are similar in height and weight but they're not the same.
Each person, I'm sure has their own view of ideal size for a RB.
And for me its a mix of their height/weight and their actual size in pads.
Helu is an inch shorter but only 3 pounds lighter then THT imo this makes him more compact and I think its apparent in how they look in pads.

Helu is 5-11/219
Hightower is 6'/222
Royster is 6'1/213

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Hightower should be more powerful than Helu
Maybe Hightower should be more powerful in your view.
But to my eye no RB on the team runs through contact better then Helu.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:39 PM   #53
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Stumbled onto more highlights:

Cardinals vs Redskins 2011 :: RoyHelusRuns.mp4 video by Txredskins44 - Photobucket
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Helu without a doubt should be our #1. Now that we have a mobile weapon at QB.. Our Offense will pack so much speed.

He runs the Zone the best of the 3 IMO.. His hands out of the Backfield is also a nice addition to a already quick threat.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:21 AM   #55
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Helu, he has vision and speed which is deadly. Tim was avg at best with his measly ypc. Royster is still on the team?
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

If we're talking YPC Royster was the highest of the bunch.
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Old 05-21-2012, 11:00 AM   #57
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

I envision Helu as a poor mans Ray Rice. I really hope he catches on.
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Old 05-21-2012, 11:13 AM   #58
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Probably already said since were beyond 3 pages....

I've always thought:

Hightower- best all around. but can take it to the edge to spread defenses.
Helu- quick and elusive, shifty. finds holes and can make people miss tackles.
Royster- a between the tackle monster. can run over people. always + yrds.

But they picked up a new guy whom I think they are shifting to FB which I think will be more interesting. I think he will either be a decent blocker or punisher up the middle.
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Re: A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

Ranked 16th in total yards but 26th in scoring. This must improve.
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Ranked 16th in total yards but 26th in scoring. This must improve.
Hopefully our problems will be somewhat solved with RG3. I think defenses stacked the box knowing RG1 couldn't throw very far or accurate. Teams will challenge RG3 and hopefully get burned enough to decide putting more CB's in the back field will be better opening up more running lanes for our RB's.

Then there is the hope the OL knows it's assignments better and performs better.
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